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I am unaware of any time the U.S. has intervened in a foreign nation simply to expand it's power or for purposes of financial gain in well over 100 years. To find such an instance you'll have to go back to the War with Mexico of the 1840's, or the War with Spain of 1898. Even in those cases you...

its.fubar, I gave you Iran already. The remainder of the countries though are not as cut and dry as Iran though.

There's no guarantees that whatever Government is put in place will last. All we can do is give them the opportunity. I would imagine that a conference will be held similar to the one which was held for Afghanistan where an agreed upon transition to a new government will be negotiated by all of...

its.fubar, I will answer you. However I am only interested in having a serious discussion. If you would like to as well then we'll have no problems. As for the countries you listed, lets first revisit what the criteria was put forth in Pradeeps statement - "Well intentioned tho it may be...

No they were acts of civil disobedience. A lot art in today's world. As I recall, there was no violence involved with the Boston Tea Party. As for the Boston massacre - unless one is willing to call the throwing of snowballs at British troops terrorism, I don't see a connection there either...

Play your troll games with someone else. You're boring me.

No they haven't. BTW - I said so that they don't have to use them. I didn't say so that they will never have to use them. Play your troll games with someone else. You're boring me.

Can you name those nations? I can't think of any.

its.fubar, The reason nations have strong militaries is so that they don't have to use them. While I agree alternative fuel sources badly need to be developed, I do not agree that oil has anything to do with the situation in Iraq.

I want add one more solution to this problem which is going to bring The Giver haters out of the woodwork here to pounce on me. And that is, if all else fails, and if we must to protect the citizens of our country and of those who are friends, we will go in and give the people of the nations...

Well that's a good point worthy of discussion. There are I think a few ways to address these problems. First of all, and most obvious, is to eliminate the U.S. as being a realistic target of opportunity. We are working on this here and other nations are also improving their national security as...

Yes of course we must work on these things.

It has everything to do with 9-11. I recall shortly that after GWB gave his speech to the Congress and to the American people following 9-11, in which he put forth the idea of a war on terrorism, that the idea was scoffed at by many at SR. But I can assure that it was taken very seriously here...

Mercutio this not so complicated an issue as we tend to make it sometimes. Terrorism is either right or it is wrong. Which ever it is, and I think we both agree that it is wrong, we can not our change our position as to it's morality based on whether we sympathize with the cause of those who...

Merc, Are we hunting down al-Qaeda because of it's pro-Palestinian policies? You see there is no more association between al-Qaeda's pro-Palestinian leanings and why we are hunting them down then there is between our pro-Israel policies and September 11. Do the French like our pro-Israel...

You know what? I'm not even going to bother with doing a check list comparing the appeasement policies of pre-war Europe with those of the formerly great Europe of today. Nor am I going to compare Saddam's flagrant violations of not only the Gulf War cease fire but also of 17 other U.N. binding...

I never said it was justice - only that is was legal. It is admirable that the reporter refused to violate her ethics. But as is often the case, doing the right thing does not mean you aren't going to kicked in the balls. I suspect the other major news organizations will be anxious to hire her...

I'm going to put the Jackboot on the other foot in a little bit draw some comparisons between Saddam and Hitler as well as between pre-war Europe of the 1930's and Europe today. For whatever such things are worth. But for now.... Its.fubar, The nuclear holocaust would have been global. Which...

Now it's me who needs Tannin to throw a "Bloody Hell" or two in on my behalf.

WTF! I never even mentioned the U.S. role during the war at all! There is nothing to misconstrue or misinterpret. I never spoke of the liberation of Europe. But while were at it. The only part of Europe which was truly liberated was that which the British, French and Americans liberated. It's a...

There you go again. I said no such thing! What I said was that the U.S. risked a nuclear holocaust in order to keep you free. Don't you see the difference? The U.S. during those years refused to rule out a first strike policy (which put the citizens of this nation at considerable risk) to...

Fubar (may I call you Fubar?), You are a fairly young man I take it? Would you mind telling us what you were taught in school about Nazi Germany and in particular what if anything was said about the holocaust. You might also elaborate a little bit on what your personal feelings and beliefs are...

It must be catching - Please show me where I ever claimed that the U.S.S.R. did not deserve more credit for the defeat of Germany than the U.S.. I never claimed or implied any such a thing. Please guys.. go back and read what I actually said rather than responding to what you think I said.

Fubar my friend, When did I give you the impression that I believe the U.S. saved Europe during the second world war? Where did I minimise the role the U.S.S.R. played in defeating Germany? I never did either. Everything I wrote about was post WWII and the invaluable service the U.S. performed...

Dozer, I was conversing with a German gentleman the other day regarding WWII. Now he is an elderly fellow, 81 years old. He is also a retired Physics Professor from the University Salzburg. He was a Hauptmann in the Luftwaffe during the Third Reich. He admits Hitler was terrible person who...

None thanks to the United States armed forces who were willing to risk their lives to protect your freedom. You do realize that the U.S. was willing to risk a nuclear holocaust to keep you free don't you? Doesn't that mean anything to you? It's not quantity - it's quality that counts. And...

I agree with the decision. That doesn't mean I agree with news organizations deliberately lying to the public. But if there is no law against it - there is no law against it. In this case the court decided the case based on the existing law, rather than attempting to write new law itself...

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Please post in English. This game is losing it's entertainment value very quickly. On the other hand if we are going to post in other languages, well that's a game we both play. Your choice.

I'm not sure if it is safe to assume that because your user-name is Swede that you are Swedish. However if you are from Sweden and the above is reference to my earlier comment regarding European bathing habits, then please know that I assumed everyone would clearly understand that I was not...

It's fubar, Much better! 1) I wasn't suggesting that Europe was attempting to decide American Policy. Mercutio introduced European public opinion into the conversation and I was questioning him as to why he did so. 2) No that is it not a fact. If you disagree please provide some credible...

1) What assumption did I make? 2) Decide what for the rest of world? 3) Guns where - are you in Iraq? What paranoia? If you want a response to any questions you will have to state your question and your position clearly. Thus far you have failed miserably at doing either.

Do you have some pent up frustion you would like to dump on me? Well OK if we must argue lets at least narrow the issue down. About what? Whether we should let Europe decide what's bests for the U.S.? Or if somehow their opposition has any relevance as to whether or not we should go to war...

Mercutio, A vast majority of Europeans don't believe in bathing more than once a month either but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop taking a shower daily.

You know... it's not always easy being The Giver. Here again it's me against 90% of the rest of the Forum. Isolated and beliegerent - just like my country. :)

I've been it using again today and have noticed that setting the HDD properties to advanced performance eliminates the slow SCSI writes seen with XP Pro. The guys at SR would love that. I've installed DX9 with no problems haven't had any problems really with anything so far.

Where the heck did you get that Doug?

Well I installed it and it works fine. I don't notice any difference in performance from XP Pro. The Boot screen calls it "Windows.Net Server 2003" - what a mouth full. It's build 3718. I'll leave it on the drive and fool with it later but for now I'm back on XP Pro.

On a lark I signed up for MS beta program for Windows .Net server a few days ago. Surprisingly I received a positive response from them today (what were they thinking?) and as I write this I am downloading the ISO for RC2 now. Has anyone else tried this program here? If so what your thoughts...

Jake, Earning a Nobel Peace Prize nomination is commendable but it doesn't really tell us if the man has done studies or not on whether DU causes birth defects. I suspect he has not or the web would be full of his work, but I can't find anything at all! I suspect that he is simply assuming and...

A woman was shopping at her local supermarket where she selected a quart of milk, a carton of eggs, juice, and a package of bacon. As she was unloading her items on the conveyor belt to check out, a drunk standing behind her watched as she placed the items in front of the cashier. He said...

Because I thought the issue was the birth defects depicted in those horrid photographs which are being blamed on the U.S. without any substantiation whatever. I thought that was why this thread was begun.

Proved what? That it causes a possible precursor to cancerous cells in rats? That's not the issue is it? It is not surprising that any metal inserted in the human body would be absorbed is it? But that's not the issue either, no one has said the mother of these children had shrapnel in them...

Believe the science. And there is none to date which supports the claims of these people.

Too many. I recall McDonalds advertized the 47 cent meal of a hamburger, fries and a milk shake when they first appeared when I was 15. Believe it or not when I was a kid there was no such thing as "fast food".

From - http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/text/1007dufactsheet.htm There countless things which have been proven to cause birth defects. But DU is not one of them. DU munitions shortened the Gulf war and saved coalition lives.

I thought the Pope had wings?

No one is going to steal the oil in Iraq. As Jake says, it belongs to the people of Iraq and no one else. It is up to them to decide what to do with it. In time I believe you will see that Iraq will remain an independent nation and will sell it's oil to whom it wishes to. Although I mentioned...

I wonder if ice formed on the un-insulated area of the main fuel tank after the insulation fell off? If a chunk of ice fell off into the wing that could do a lot of damage I would think.

Mercutio, Great post. Let's remember that this development with North Korea didn't even arise until last fall by which time the current effort to square away Iraq was well under way. Here is an article from the Brookings Institution which directly addresses why Iraq and not North Korea right...