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#1
Ryzen 2 appears to be completely competitive with current products from Intel.

I suspect the Intel advantage in Passmark single-core scores is not real, because it doesn't seem to be corroborated by any other benchmarking. There is a newer alternative to Passmark.com called UserBenchmark.com which looks a bit more consistent to me when comparing historical CPUs.

Coincidentally, as of December 2018, I cannot buy most Intel CPUs. I imagine that whatever they are able to make is going to Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. So AMD now completely dominates retail sales of component CPUs. I haven't built anything for quite a while, but the 65W Ryzen 5 2600 looks pretty good: 6 core (with 12 threads) that appears to outpace any 6-core Intel i5-9xxx for less money to boot (~US$165 in Aus). The 90W 2600X doesn't seem to add enough extra performance to justify the significantly higher price and power consumption.

Motherboards seem cheap, what's not to love?
 

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#2
Ryzen 2 appears to be completely competitive with current products from Intel.

I suspect the Intel advantage in Passmark single-core scores is not real, because it doesn't seem to be corroborated by any other benchmarking. There is a newer alternative to Passmark.com called UserBenchmark.com which looks a bit more consistent to me when comparing historical CPUs.

Coincidentally, as of December 2018, I cannot buy most Intel CPUs. I imagine that whatever they are able to make is going to Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. So AMD now completely dominates retail sales of component CPUs. I haven't built anything for quite a while, but the 65W Ryzen 5 2600 looks pretty good: 6 core (with 12 threads) that appears to outpace any 6-core Intel i5-9xxx for less money to boot (~US$165 in Aus). The 90W 2600X doesn't seem to add enough extra performance to justify the significantly higher price and power consumption.

Motherboards seem cheap, what's not to love?
Have all those performance robbing malware fixes been resolved?
I was thinking about a new system next year since 2018 was so messed up.
I'd hope we have 8 cores at 5GHz with some aquatic.
 

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#3
I just built a Ryzen 2700X on ASrock x470 Taichi motherboard with 32GB Corsair 3000MHz for my girlfriend as her new photo editing workstation. I'm almost done stress testing it and getting everything setup and so far it's really nice.

Ryzen 2700X: $269.99
ASrock x470 taichi: $164.00
Corsair LPX 32GB DRAM 3000MHz C15 Memory Kit (2 x 16GB): $249.99
Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4: $89.90
Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.Black.swap Premium-Grade Quiet 140mm Fan: $24.90 x 3
HP EX920 M.2 1TB PCIe 3.0 NMVe: $161.49
Fractal Design Define R6 Blackout Brushed Aluminum/Steel ATX Silent Modular Tempered Glass Window Mid Tower Computer Case: $167.95
SeaSonic Electronics Prime Ultra Gold Series 750W 80 Plus Gold: $120.56
Arctic Silver 5 High Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound: $15.43
HGST Deskstar NAS 3.5" 8TB 7200 RPM: $229.99
Repurposed Nvidia GTX 780 GPU from an older gaming system
Windows 10 Pro: $40 (from my friend who gets the family discount)

~$1585

I'll be moving over 6 other hard drives and SSDs from her other workstation. I also have a Samsung SM1715 1.6TB NVMe with a x4 PCIe controller to add to this system as a process drive.
 

Chewy509

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#4
Have all those performance robbing malware fixes been resolved?
I was thinking about a new system next year since 2018 was so messed up.
I'd hope we have 8 cores at 5GHz with some aquatic.
AMDs CPUs weren't vulnerable to Meltdown, only some the Spectre variants, most of which performance loss due to mitigation were minor.

My only concern with Ryzen are the mobile parts, and how AMD has handled the driver situation with them...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/9xez7h/amd_ryzen_mobile_couldve_been_a_great_product_if/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/9yxdu4/amd_ryzen_mobile_driver_update/

As for 8core @ 5GHz, IBM has had that covered since 2014 with POWER8. (POWER8 available in 4,6,8,10 and 12 core variants, ranging between 2.5GHz and 5GHz, w/ 32 channel DDR3/4 memory interface). IBM and Tyan both have bare-bones servers based on the architecture...
 

sechs

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#5
Were Ryzen CPUs ever *not* competitive with Intel?

It just seems like Intel has continued to bungle it while AMD is hitting all of its targets, making the situation a lot more clear. Also, Intel couldn't price a processor competitively if its life depended on it.
 
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#6
The forthcoming Zen 2 based Ryzen 3000 series chips have my interest. The rumor mill is building. They showed off a prototype 8-core/16-thread Zen 2 based Ryzen 3000 at CES that was performing equal to the Intel i9-9900K in Cinebench while using less power to do it (133W vs 179W).
 
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