[NEWS] - Mozilla to be Replaced by Phoenix, Thunderbird

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In a new development roadmap published to its Web site, the Mozilla Organization outlined its future plans, which include a migration away from the current Mozilla suite to a leaner offshoot dubbed Phoenix.
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The full story can be found here at Beta News.
 
And it's good news, in my book. Lean and mean is the way to go. The only part of Moz I use is the browser. Everything else is useless crap. (The same exact comment applies to all the otrher browsers too, of course. If I need to send an email I'll use an email client. If I need to edit some HTML, I'll use a text editor. Integrated kitchen sinks in fat ugly bloatware are for AOL moronz.)
 
Watch who you're calling an AOLer, bub. I use every part of the current version of Mozilla. If someone sends me a message I can't decipher from elm, I fire up Moz's mail. If I'm ever possessed and need to use an address book, there's one in there, too, and the IRC client works just fine for the three times a year I need to use IRC.

Way I see it, anything more than Moz is probably just extra, useless crap (per Sturgeon's law, the thing in Tea's sig).
 
OK. Zorry. I think Mercutio got confuzed between us. Dunno why. I'm so much better looking, after all. And anyway, I didn't mean that Mercutio was an AOL-er. Just that I wish Moz would only load up all that other cra .... er ... stuff when required. Like three timez a year. Lookz to me like they are headed in the right direction.
 
I tried the email client that came with Moz 1.0 and promptly went back to OE. Maybe one day I'll give the email client another try, but so far, I only use the browser. At home, I use OE for email and IE for work (VPN) and certain sites that refuse to work with Moz. Otherwise, I love the tabbed browsing. I find myself wishing I could use Moz at work, but all the intranet pages are written for IE only, not to mention I'm not allowed to install any software on my work rig. :(
 
Adcadet said:
Mickey - why don't you just bring in your own computer to work?
;)
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The one at work is a lot faster than my home rig; it has a very nice Wildcat 6110 card, something that I cannot afford in my home system. In exchange for having a great CAD setup, I think I can deal with having to use IE exclusively. ;)
 
I use the Moz browser, IRC client (Chatzilla), and the moz email.

The Moz email has worked far better than OE since before it was called Moz... (I pretty much only use IMAP). IE may be my main browser, but I love Moz for email.

Personally, I'd like to see it kept as a suite... but I can live with the seperate programs since it's not hard to switch between them.
 
Adcadet said:
oh. Good reasons. Even if they do come from a mouse. Everybody knows that RATS RULE!
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Heh, I'm in the middle of reading a book on the bubonic plague that hit San Francisco right around 1900. Brought over by...

Rats. ;)

Back OT: I figured I'd give the Moz email client another try on my laptop. If nothing else, it's good to learn a new package; I've played with Pegasus, Pine, VM mail (I hated it!), All-in-One (never did learn how to send a message with that one), OE, MS Exchange, Netscape's email, so it should be interesting. So far, it doesn't look like any of the others. Maybe the client with 1.1 will work better for me.
 
Hey, it wasn't the RATs, it was the FLEAS! AHHHHHHH! One stupid plague and you're stuck with a bad rep for centuries!

What book, but the way? As an epidemiology MPH student scrambling to finish my thesis while finalizing wedding planns, I need all the distractions I can get!
 
I'm another who only uses the browser (although I keep meaning to have a look at the mail and IRC components - I just never seem to have the time :wink: ), so splitting it out won't cause me any problems (I prefer it that way in fact as I don't use an e-mail client at all although the IRC client may be useful once I figure out how to let it through my firewall.....).

GM
 
Make sure you're playing with Moz 1.3 at least. The builtin filtering is pretty cool (under tools > filters)
 
Adcadet said:
Hey, it wasn't the RATs, it was the FLEAS! AHHHHHHH! One stupid plague and you're stuck with a bad rep for centuries!

What book, but the way? As an epidemiology MPH student scrambling to finish my thesis while finalizing wedding planns, I need all the distractions I can get!
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It's called "The Barbary Plague: The Black Death in Victorian San Francisco," by Marilyn Chase. It just recently came out. I've only gotten through the first chapter so far.

Oh well. It's nice being a fictional mouse; no fleas. :)

Merc, I haven't decided if I'll download Moz 1.3 yet. Isn't it still in beta? I've heard good things about the email client, too. Maybe I'll be a bit adventurous today after work and install it.
 
GMac said:
I'm another who only uses the browser (although I keep meaning to have a look at the mail and IRC components - I just never seem to have the time :wink: ), so splitting it out won't cause me any problems (I prefer it that way in fact as I don't use an e-mail client at all although the IRC client may be useful once I figure out how to let it through my firewall.....).

GM
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pass tcp port 6667 to your box
 
Tea said:
It's in final, Mickey. And as stable as ... er ... a really stable thing.
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Thanks muchly. I just installed 1.3 and promise to use the email client for a week at least to see if I like it. Can't get away from using IE for VPN, much as I wish. :(

I've had great results using the Moz browser; it's been a lot more stable than IE 5.5 was for me. I manage to crash IE 5.5 at work a few times a week pretty easily. I think I've crashed Moz a total of five times since downloading 1.0 however many months ago it was.
 
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