Need a Decent Phone

LunarMist

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...but not very expensive. Does that exist in the 2021 era? My current phones were around $300 each, but one of them does not accept a newer OS, so the work-related apps just don't. :(
Most of the reviews of the cheaper phones indicate that they are not so reliable or suffer some critical defects.
I must be on the T-mobiles, which may be detrimental?
I really don't feel like spending $1000 mainly to receive the constantly annoying 2-factorial text messages to access SAP, Ariba, etc. and run TEAMS.
I otherwise only use a phone for web and emails. The cameras will be covered with Gaffer's tape and I would not store anything personal on that phone for obvious reasons. Thanks.
 

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I think Motorola is the gold standard for mid-tier Android phones. They tend to have 700-series Snapdragon CPUs and middling displays, but they tend toward the absurd end of battery life. I've suggested the Moto G Power or Ace for friends who aren't concerned about the camera.

Samsung A5x phones are also quite nice and also highly recommended, but S20s that are refurbished or S20FEs on discount sometimes drop into the low $400 range, and those are phones that will hold up for years because they do still have flagship specs. Samsung is saying they're planning to offer at least two cycles of full OS upgrades to new phones, and I've gotten three monthly security patches since I got my S20. Samsung DOES want to sell you on their camera, but in its favor, it's hard to find fault in those bright, high refresh displays and crap-tons of RAM.
 
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The last phone they supplied was a Blackenberry. :D Now we receive some bucks per month to spend on phone services. 85% of the people I see only have one phone, but a good one.

The apps now are just awful with the permissions required. My "work" phone has hundreds of contacts I saved years ago on a Dell Core 2 Duo, including many that are irrelavant or deceased. And TEAMS messages are practically 24 hours a day due to the global nature. :(
 

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Is this the one? It is rather huge and heavy, maybe too much to keep it in my pants.
Is 6GB of RAM enough to last a few years or will the CPU be a limiting factor?
I don't see any update policy. How can I discover the last OS that will be updated on the device?
 

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OS updates are maybe the weak point of motorola? I love their phones, have had a Moto Z and Moto One Hyper, but they received very sporadical updates. I bought the Z spring 2017 and the updates stopped in August 18. :(
 

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Is this the one? It is rather huge and heavy, maybe too much to keep it in my pants.
Is 6GB of RAM enough to last a few years or will the CPU be a limiting factor?
I don't see any update policy. How can I discover the last OS that will be updated on the device?
Moto is not great with updates. Samsung and Google are best in that department, each giving about three years of software support on average, though Google is claiming more for the just released Pixel 6 series. Samsung promises support through two Android revisions past the release versions and in general continues to provide security updates beyond that, at least for S series models.

For what it's worth, my ancient Galaxy S4 has LineageOS 17 on it, which is based on Android 11. I couldn't do that stuff with my LG phones because they didn't have unlocked bootloaders, but Samsung phones are so common and well supported that it's nothing to move them on to open source ROMs oncethey lose official support.
 

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A third (fourth?) on Motorola. I myself use a Moto G Power 2020 (Snap 665, 4GB RAM, US$230 on Amazon back in July), I learned my lesson from past movements and just bought the unlocked version directly from them. Yes, OS updates are the big achilles' heel of Motorola these days, since their acquisition by Lenovo you get updates for a year, maybe two and then you're done. I don't consider this a big deal because, being unlocked, I can easily unlock the bootloader and do as I wish -- in particular I bought the 2020 over the 2021 because the 2021 drops the ultrawide camera and doesn't have as active a dev scene, and is otherwise completely the same.
 

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Samsung A and S series and Google Pixel phones are going to be the ones with the longest support in the android world I'm aware of. Apple still rules in this area, the 6S just dropped off of support. You could in theory get anything newer than a 7 and enjoy at least a couple years of up to date software.

Personally I'd stick to Xr or newer.
 

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Yeah, now that my Moto doesn't have the new phone luster, if I had to do it all again I'd probably go with an A52 5G to have something with a bit more longevity. 5G rollout in my area is pathetic, but I assume some day it won't be, and 4GB RAM just isn't a ton on Android like it was when I had my V30 a few years ago. I'm almost tempted to grab one anyway and keep my Moto as a work or backup phone, but I'm still not quite where I want to be financially to drop 400 bucks on a whim.
 

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I'm not thrilled with the A52 being so tall, but it seems a decent option. What is the thought about when the next model will replace it?
 

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I'm not thrilled with the A52 being so tall, but it seems a decent option. What is the thought about when the next model will replace it?

The A-series has screen, CPU and RAM that are all a step down from the S-series, but they do keep the SD slot and headphone jack, and they're expected to keep those features as part of the distinguishing characteristics of the line. The 18:9 or 21:9 form factor does seem to be the new standard for candy bar phones these days and I don't think we can get away from that. Samsung releases are extremely predictable and leaked months ahead of time. A-series phones are released in the spring, if you're thinking about holding out for the next one.

Samsung does make the S2xFE devices that go on sale for around the same price as the A5x phones. Amazon and Best Buy will have them for around the same $400 price point, and then it's just a question of whether you're willing to trade the pretty good camera in the A- for the better CPU, RAM (and lack of ports) for the FE phone.

My roommate stopped bothering with a phone. She broke the one she had and just hasn't replaced it, and now does everything through a couple instant message tools from an Android tablet. I find myself wishing I were able to get away with that, since my phone is used more for multifactor authentication than anything else and I might go a week or more between actual phone calls.
 

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...my phone is used more for multifactor authentication than anything else and I might go a week or more between actual phone calls.
I also need it for authenticator at work, a whole bunch of MS apps, and some other new apps they keep piling on. The last app just doesn't work properly under Androids part 7. I also need a phone number for work and other purposes that is different from my personal cell. The S21FE is $700 at the BestBuy, which is too much for just the work phone purpose. The store is probably full of the Covids now anyway.

I'm not sure what you mean about ports. I prefer a stereo mini in case of air travel to use the active noise cancellation earphones. I assume they all have USB-C for power now. What else could there be?
 

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Gosh I would never do that unless sufficient bucks were involved. It's like giving up your negatives used to be. The photographer controls the output printing or other media, but that is an artistic choice from the RAW files.

On the website there is no 1/8" mini audio socket. :( Do you use one of those Chinese USB to mini adapters?
 

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I've used bluetooth earbuds for years. I don't like the full wireless ones, but I usually have a pair of corded ones wrapped around my neck. The ones I'm using right now are SoundPeats Q35s, which I bought for AptX support that my previous Jaybird pair did not have.

The SD card to Google Photos is the most immediate form of backup. Canon's utility for copying files to a phone won't transfer the .CR3s, so I swap my cards every night while I'm traveling to make sure the files end up somewhere other than just my camera; my phone will passively dump the files to the cloud. I'll delete them once I'm safely home with full access to proper storage. I also mirror on to two cards, but I had cards go bad in my old 5D, so I'm paranoid.

I only ever share out processed JPG files.
 
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