Mirrorless Cameras (MILC) and Lenses

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Apparently the next wave of pro bodies will support quad rather than dual pixel autofocus, and it's fairly reasonable to think we might get real autofocus improvements in firmware over time as well. For the majority of my shooting, the eye autofocus is doing exactly what I want. Unless I screw up my metering, I'm probably getting very good pictures out of it. Of course, probably 98% of the pictures I take involve things with traditional eyeballs, so YMMV.

I decided against the R5 precisely because I didn't feel like it was offering anything extra that I wasn't also getting with the R6, other than the additional pixels. But it turns out that there's something good to be said for keeping twice as many shots on an SD card and just as much for batch processing them in half the time.

I recently had an opportunity to rent the RF 70-200 and try it out vs my Sigma Sport 70-200 and while I can't say that the Canon lens took better photos, it was a full pound lighter. I'm not sure if that's worth an extra $1000, but my shoulders appreciated it. My Sigma lenses are all hefty compared to the Canon equivalents.
 

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This was originally going to be a question specifically for LM but I'll throw it out there just in case as a topic of broader interest. Lunar just mentioned his his workflow in another thread and I'm interested in knowing what other people do.

Culling photos is a real issue for me lately. I shot almost 20,000 pictures in June. Does anybody have any specific advice for choosing what to keep? Helper software?

My software workflow is to dump my card to a folder named by date and subject, import everything into a Capture One catalog, batch-apply whatever exposure / preset / noise reduction and to do corrective work (95% of the time that's mild skin smoothing, covering bruises or wrinkles and fixing flyaway hairs) with Luminar. Luminar isn't a feature complete replacement for something like Photoshop, but it does do a good jump of smoothing skin without making it look like plastic. I can't bring myself to give money to Adobe or to install a pirated copy of Creative Suite though, which might be holding back my editing capabilities.

After editing and batch processing, I dump exported JPGs to a Google Photos album and let my model or models know they're there to be viewed. In theory I should probably be putting up 50 - 100 pictures instead of all 2000 from a shoot, but I'm very often surprised by what photos my models like best. Their eye for keeper pictures is often different from mine.

I do video editing in either Resolve, which I'm still learning, or Vegas Studio, which I used for years and know pretty well. I mostly shoot 4k, which I render out as 1080p. Here, the question is whether I should bother to keep the original footage once I've rendered it. No one ever asks to see it and in fact no one has ever asked for a 4k render after I've delivered 1080p. I use a mix of my Canon R6 and an RP, sometimes mixing in an Action Cam. Some day I hope I'll have a drone to use as well. I've only been doing serious video at all for the last few months, though, and there's been a real learning curve between dealing with a gimbal, learning about mics and color matching across multiple cameras. I have yet to shoot a video I'm really proud of, but I'm getting better at it.
 

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Try Photomechanic or BreezeBrowser Pro. Only the former supports the MAC.
 

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I have a couple Macs sitting around, but nothing I'd choose to use in a photography workflow. I definitely notice that a lot of the tools that get recommended for this work are Mac-only though, and a lot of others are subscription based, which is a nope for other reasons.

I can see the appeal of a 12" M1 Mac with a couple card readers and USB ports in a tablet form factor, but Apple doesn't make that device and doesn't seem interested in doing so, either.

I've been playing with a tool called Optyx, which does several sorts of AI analysis. I pointed it at 2500 photos and it selected about 250 for more attention, which feels a lot more manageable. It took about 5 minutes to chew through my CR3s, which is a lot less time than I'd spend reviewing them. I will note that it got all my personal 5-star images and left in a burst sequence of my model doing a handstand. Pretty neat.

Photomechanic, at $140, seems a little bit dear, but I haven't tried it yet, either.
 

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Why are you shooting 2500 frames in a session? Are there a dozen or more subjects, like some events and each needs multiple options?
 

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Why are you shooting 2500 frames in a session? Are there a dozen or more subjects, like some events and each needs multiple options?

It's very common for me to spend all day with someone, with multiple changes in clothes and of location. Summertime has been very rough on my SD cards. Being near a major city, a national park, several beaches and the one of the rust belt centers for urban exploration, I've been a lot more active than I would be otherwise. I've had way too many "We'll do that some day."-plans come to pass lately.

I probably should start charging, but I've gotten to do a lot of cool things, especially as Chicago has recently returned to something like normality.
 

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I use the Sony CFe cards in the R5, but I suppose the R6 can more easily get by with SDxC UHS-II cards.
I suggest that you think and plan more, and learn to shoot less. That will save time and you will obtain better results in the long run.
 

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Don't sport-focused bodies usually have lower resolution sensors?
It's REALLY hard to complain about 20MP in an R6. The other bodies I've used are 21MP and 24MP.

I try to compose for the shot I want so I don't have to do much cropping, but that's a good habit for photography anyway.
 

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I don't know how large you print or whatever else you do with the output. 21MP was great back in 2007, but I don't want anything less than 30MP since 2016. The original R had the right MP, but everything else was too low grade and the first round of the technology.

The issue with the R3 is that Canon should have stated the resolution up front instead of playing games, storking rumours, and pissing off many of their users.
 

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I've been able to print 44"x54" (thanks, work!) and honestly it looks good from about 10 feet away. Usually, ungodly large prints aren't meant to be viewed up close. The people doing billboard photos only use something like 2MP images for the images that actually go up.

Even at 20MP, I'm getting an image fine enough to capture someone's skin pores. That seems like enough to me.

I print Ledger-size (US 11x17") with some frequency, and 20MP makes for a gorgeous 300dpi print. I've done a few weddings where I've sent off pictures for commercial printing, but I have a Brother MFC at home and a Pixma-something and some more Brother MFCs at the office (thanks, work!) that I can use as well.

I haven't been following the R3 that closely; I'm very happy with my R6 and RP combo, but it did seem like a safe bet that all the new toys would go with a small sensor first. They have to save something for the R1.

Incidentally, weddings suck and I totally understand now why pros get $5k+ for their time on the big day.

I also managed to buy a copy of a photo culling application called Optyx 3 days before they switched to a monthly subscription. I was going to post about it, but as much as I like it, it's not worth $10/month. It is really cool to get something that will toss pictures where subjects have their eyes closed or some motion blur from an automated routine. The workflow is tunable and it's fairly easy to override some of its choices, so it's been a big win.
 

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I shot pictures in an informal capacity at a friend's wedding yesterday. I had my RP set up on a gimbal for video use and let my quasi-SO creep around with that (using a gimbal is an art and it turns out that the person with 10 years of ballet is just naturally better at that than I am) while I took photos. She took about 600 pictures and maybe a half hour of video. I took about 2100 photos on my R6 (there's some liberal use of burst mode in there; 20 shots in a second can add up fast).

The RP battery barely held out through everything. It might've been 10% charged by the time we finished up. My friend left her camera screen on almost the whole time though. I honestly haven't used the RP very much; I taught her the basics and set her up with my 24 - 70 and a 35mm. I don't think the crop in 4k is bad, especially since the output will be delivered in 1080p.

The RF 35mm 1.8 is kind of an odd lens to me because it's a wide macro but it was appreciated that each of us only used a couple lenses all day, for important stuff like the pictures of the couple's hands with the rings, the table settings and the wedding cake, the macro capabilities were really useful. No reason to pull on a 100mm macro lens that's irregularly needed a dozen times over the day. I'm not sure what to do with the control ring, either. I thought it would be really handy, but so far it hasn't been used.

My R6 was fine. I had over half a battery left when we finished. I know there are some concerns about the R6 lacking in that department, but it seems like it's enough to me. I really do love that camera.

With just under 2700 images, Optyx pulled out 383. I'm given the option to review each grouping of similar shots, so I can pull in the burst of shots that came from putting the ring on or the first kiss, and that pushed the total to more like 430 pictures. I'm not going to spend THAT long on editing since I'm not being paid, but 10 minutes with that culling tool probably saved me two hours of sorting through photos of people I don't know. I trimmed the rest to 250 pictures for an online album and now I'm trying to decide what will get set up as the 24 best shots they can turn into a book or have printed for framing.
 
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