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    In some cases yes. I'm in a similar boat where my current PC has no PCIe lanes available and I want to add an NVMe drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handruin View Post
    In some cases yes. I'm in a similar boat where my current PC has no PCIe lanes available and I want to add an NVMe drive.
    I think my X99 board has enough lanes, but I don't have free slots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy509 View Post
    As per above:
    It is $450 from Canada. Hmmm.
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    Intel P4510

    I suppose 4 or 8TB drives will be expensive, but 3000MB/sec. reads and 2900MB/sec. writes (4TB) is pretty nice.
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    Doh. Already posted in news by Chewy already.

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    Is there anything better than the Samsung T5 in external 2TB SSDs?
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    I've been playing around with the 2TB M.2 860 EVO. I'm pretty impressed so far after a few TB written. It doesn't slow down after extended writes like the old 850 EVO. The chips are warm but not hot.
    I need an adapter to use in a PSD and will try that later.
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    Of course two weeks after I got the 2TB 860 EVO, the 970 EVO is announced at 2TB.
    Unfortunately there is no 2TB 970 Pro, which dashes any hope there would be a 4TB version. I suppose the 2TB 960 Pro was not popular.
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    They're kind of unimpressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    They're kind of unimpressive.
    Do you think the flash is similar to the 860 EVO, but the NVMe reveals the bottlenecks otherwise hidden by SATA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    Do you think the flash is similar to the 860 EVO, but the NVMe reveals the bottlenecks otherwise hidden by SATA?
    I'm not really sure. There's not much performance increase, but there's a big increase in power consumption. It certainly isn't suited for a laptop if you care about battery life.

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    Has there been improvements with the underlying NAND since the earlier one was released? Otherwise this looks like just an improvement with the NAND controller itself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    I'm not really sure. There's not much performance increase, but there's a big increase in power consumption. It certainly isn't suited for a laptop if you care about battery life.
    The laptop has only 52WHr and I suspect it would not operate at full power on batteries. The laptop would always be on AC unless the generator is off.
    Anyway, I don't want excessive heat in the laptop enclosure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy509 View Post
    Has there been improvements with the underlying NAND since the earlier one was released? Otherwise this looks like just an improvement with the NAND controller itself...
    The 860 EVO was only out a few months ago, so I doubt it.
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    I thought that, in normal desktop use, drives tended to have more reads than writes?
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    I would agree with that statement for drives that are not your boot drive or main application drive. That said, I am surprised at the large difference between the two in your example. I wouldn't have expected 6:1 w/r. Maybe something else is going on under the hood of that system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    I thought that, in normal desktop use, drives tended to have more reads than writes?
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    Is it in normal desktop use?

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    While I doubt it, could the use of the pagefile, system logging, read caching and .net optimisation processes account for the difference?

    The other possibility, CrystalDiskInfo has the field reversed? (Or Samsung/smart is reporting bad/wrong information).
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    As normal as my desktop use is. Office, Adobe, games, web browser. Nothing special. The system has plenty of RAM and has hibernation disabled.
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    Perhaps you have som application installed that writes heavily to the disk for no apparent reason? Like Spotify used to do.

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    I'm thinking about that P4510 being the ultimate data drive, but they are still not available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    As normal as my desktop use is. Office, Adobe, games, web browser. Nothing special. The system has plenty of RAM and has hibernation disabled.
    60TB of office stuff? Even 10TB seems high for a boot drive. Maybe it is the games seeding something constantly for the brain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handruin View Post
    I would agree with that statement for drives that are not your boot drive or main application drive. That said, I am surprised at the large difference between the two in your example. I wouldn't have expected 6:1 w/r. Maybe something else is going on under the hood of that system?
    Looks to me like there are only about twice as many host writes as reads. Considering how log happy just Win10 is, that doesn't seem to be entirely out of order.
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    Perhaps it is the Chinese or Russians?
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    There is still no DC P4510 available. Does anyone know when they will be out?
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    I see one on Amazon for sale.

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    I could not find the 4TB. 8TB is a little pricey. I wonder if these SSDs are not meant for consumer sales.
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    Have you seen this announcement on the 8TB NVMe NF1 formfactor? Likely more vaporware for many months to come?
    Last edited by Handruin; 06-25-2018 at 05:30 PM.

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    Yes I did. How would I connect it to the X99?
    For now I may buy an SATA ssd. It's still better on the latencies and multi basking than my NAS and would have some use as a backup later. The two NADS and computers are heating up the joint now that it is summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handruin View Post
    Have you seen this announcement on the 8TB NVMe NF1 formfactor? Likely more vaporware for many months to come?
    You're turning into Lunar with your links.
    Last edited by Handruin; 06-25-2018 at 05:30 PM.

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    Damn you're right. I edited the post to point to the right location. At least my URL went to something that wasn't this forum post. I got burned by my Mac Keyboard vs Windows with the switch from ctrl +v versus command +v for pasting...that and working on little sleep today...

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