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    I've been tempted by the i7-8086K to refresh a new system using it. I've read good things on it. I'm wondering if it makes more sense than the very expensive i9-9900K that just announced.

    Can you list all the other components you used? I'm curious what motherboard you paired with it and RAM speed/manufacturer.

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    If the 9900k was out I would have used it. I plan to use Silicon Lottery going forward for CPUs, seems like a nice service. All the other components were ordered and systems built well in advance, so I could ship completed units as quickly as possible once the 2080tis showed up. Full build spec below:

    Intel i7-8086K
    ASUS ROG Strix Z370-I Gaming (Mini ITX)
    Samsung 970 Pro 512GB
    Corsair Vengance RGB 32GB DDR4 3000MHz C15 (2x 16GB)
    Corsair Hydro H115i 280mm CPU cooler
    Corsair HX850i PSU (system draws 590W at full synthetic load)
    Corsair Carbide 275R Mid-Tower case
    Corsair Fan Controller Commander Pro
    Corsair ML RGB fans (magnetic bearing, mixed 120mm and 140mm)
    Corsair RGB lighting strips

    Yes, the case could take a larger board, but this build doesn't need a larger board. Plus having all that free space under the GPU makes feeding it cool air that much easier (got another 185MHz above the factory).

    Going aftermarket water with the GPU would be next, we'll see if they want that.

    Edit: Also, this is my first tempered glass/RGB build. It does make things shiny. But nVidia needs to get onboard with the logo in their cards....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    Completely random, but I was just reflecting on the comment Tannin left about monitors. Buying his used 20D was the first bit of international buying/selling I ever participated in. I just shipped 3 systems spec'ed the same as my "Work1" PC, including one to Australia (near Melbourne). Times have changed.
    Is this a potential side business for you or just a hobby? Are the builds for friends/business associates?
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    I've always built crazy machines and shown them around. Here is one I showed here a while ago, "The Coffin".

    Some of them have been more crazy, or specific to some random industry need. This has led to individuals asking for either an exact copy of something I've already built, or having me solve a specific problem. The first ones I built for a real customer were for Dolby Labs in San Francisco in the late 90s; they needed completely silent audio workstations for some of their gear.

    I don't advertise, I don't sell a lot, and I only really do them for people I know. In a busy year I might ship 20 machines. This last batch was because I told some friends who are also into gaming how this new super-fast CPU and GPU were coming out at around the same time, and that I was going to take this opportunity to upgrade to the fastest thing money can buy. 3 of them with some spare cash asked me to do the same for them. I don't do a lot of mark-up; it isn't for profit, really. I just like building rigs and playing with high-end hardware.

    Edit: Just in case anyone was wondering, these systems shipped for $8000 each.
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    About halfway done with the cable management, but performance wise I think I'm done. Bad picture from my phone below:

    http://prntscr.com/l87c9u
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    About halfway done with the cable management, but performance wise I think I'm done. Bad picture from my phone below:

    http://prntscr.com/l87c9u
    Why did you use such a tiny motherboard?

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    As mentioned about 5 posts up, it doesn't need to be bigger. Having the open space below helps me feed cooler air to the GPU, which helps the oc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    Are you playing ancient computer games? I can't imagine what good a 20 year old OS would be .
    Why yes, yes I am. I'm currently fiddling with Al-Jalima to see just how far I can push it -- right now roundabout Quake III Arena/Unreal Tournament seem to be ever so slightly too much for it -- if I were to track down an SL259 CPU for it, as apparently those clock to 233 without issue, I'm almost certain it'd iron that out along with Glide mode on the Banshee -- it comes so tantalizingly close to being playable, smaller maps are almost perfect, but some maps are just a mess of stutter and frame droppages. That goes double if for some ungodly reason I feel like playing a LAN game with it, where ironically it wastes CPU cycles waiting on my network more than anything. You'd think botmatches on a CPU-limited configuration would be more trouble, but no. And I'm well aware that this machine would have been designed with NT 4 in mind and NT 4 would likely run better due to its full 32-bit design (where 9x remained partially 16-bit for performance reasons on 586 and older chips) and the PPro's well-documented near-uselessness for 16-bit code; however, I simply can't ignore the convenience that MS-DOS mode offers, and being limited to a hacked version of DirectX5 at best isn't really what I had in mind for that machine. I do want to, some day when I have an excess of time and a dire need for additional brain cells, swap the SD card I've got in that machine's IDE adapter for some throwaway card just to see how badly XP would run on it. It's 53MHz below minimum spec, sure, but it does have twice the minimum RAM.

    Samsur's been getting some attention lately as well. It got a semi-broken install of XP -- God, that was a pain to install, it kept complaining about trying to format the 320GB hard drive it's got saying I didn't have enough RAM for it (it's got 768MB) -- which broke when I installed the unofficial service pack 4 and started getting updates intended for POSReady2009. On a more modern machine I'm sure it'd work fine but those updates make foobar2000 crash trying to call up gdiplus -- my only guess is that its lack of SSE, being a Thunderbird 1333, angers the new libraries in some way. Oh well. Lesson learned. It's about to get its copy of 2000 put back onto it.
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    Samsur: SL-75KAV, Thunderbird 1333, 768MB PC133, GeForce4Ti4200 64MB, Audigy2ZS, 3C-905C, 320GB HDD, SS-350ET, HFSLIP2000 w/ Extended Kernel

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    Heads up, RTX2080Ti's are apparently dropping like flies, particularly Founder's Edition cards. Mostly affecting overclockers at first but now people are reporting dying cards despite not touching any clocks.

    In other news I've delidded my 3570K -- For now, I'm just using some Arctic Silver 5 I had laying around as a proof of concept, but here soon I plan on massively upgrading my cooling; First, I'll put some Conductonaut (you may have heard of it referred to as liquid metal) between my die and IHS, seal it back up, then I'll run an AIO cooler with a 240mm rad -- probably an H100i as I can find those relatively cheaply recertified. These two should bring my temps low enough that I'll feel comfortable running my chip at higher speeds -- as I know I have the voltage headroom, with supposedly 1.35v being the safe limit for Ivy and my current being 1.24 to hit 4.3GHz stable. I should have no trouble hitting 4.8 or maybe even 5.0.

    And Samsur did indeed have Windows 2000 reinstalled onto it, with the extended kernel for good measure, which essentially lets you run anything XP can provided you bypass installers that specifically check the OS version. I was usually able to just extract installers using 7-zip and run the executables directly -- the most involved fix I had to do was opening the msi installer for Strawberry Perl 5.16 in Orca and changing the LaunchCondition entry from VersionNT > 500 to VersionNT > 400. Foobar2000 1.4 works just fine now -- even down to the Shpeck plugin to use MilkDrop2 visualizations I hijacked from a copy of Winamp. Probably the most stressful game I run on it is the "collector's edition" of Half Life 2 (modern Steam version removed the DX8/7 render paths) -- it's a mixed bag, some sections run perfectly, others literally run at less than a single frame per second. That much I can probably chalk up to swapping, as I could definitely stand to max that machine out to 1.5GB since I am running 2k after all. HexChat 2.9.4 is the reason I installed Perl libraries -- it can use them for scripts, of which I have a few. Surprisingly it's one of those that "just worked". Firefox 45.9.0esr is the latest that will launch, due to my lack of SSE2, but I have no reason to assume it wouldn't run 52.9.0esr as well if I were running on a SSE2-capable machine.
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    Al-Jalima: Gateway2000 VS440FX, PPro 180/256K @ 200MHz, 128MB EDO, Banshee 16MB, ES1868F, 3C-905, 64GB SD->IDE on Ultra66, SS-350ET, Win98SElite (KernelEx)
    Samsur: SL-75KAV, Thunderbird 1333, 768MB PC133, GeForce4Ti4200 64MB, Audigy2ZS, 3C-905C, 320GB HDD, SS-350ET, HFSLIP2000 w/ Extended Kernel

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    Just a short post...

    Was getting new tyres on the car last weekend (Cooper CS5 Ultras for our Suzuki Grand Vitara), and whilst waiting for them to fit them whilst in the waiting room, a rather smug looking individual comes in asking about getting two new tyres for their car (Merc C63 AMG about 3 year old)...

    He asked about tyres to suite, and the nice lady behind the counter recommended decent range of Coopers, Bridgestones and Pirelli's to suite the vehicle... (All tyres that are speed/weight rated for the vehicle). Nope, all those options were too expensive, only wanted to pay no more AU$89 (for each tyre), because that's all he paid last time for tyres... Oh, and didn't want a wheel alignment either, because he had that done 30K ago... And to top it all off, wanted it done immediately...

    After he left disgruntled that they couldn't squeeze him immediately, and that they had to order tyres to fit (about 3-4 days lead time needed), I asked the lady behind the counter, if they get that all the time... Her reply: "a lot, especially from those with the more expensive cars"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy509 View Post
    Just a short post...

    Was getting new tyres on the car last weekend (Cooper CS5 Ultras for our Suzuki Grand Vitara), and whilst waiting for them to fit them whilst in the waiting room, a rather smug looking individual comes in asking about getting two new tyres for their car (Merc C63 AMG about 3 year old)...

    He asked about tyres to suite, and the nice lady behind the counter recommended decent range of Coopers, Bridgestones and Pirelli's to suite the vehicle... (All tyres that are speed/weight rated for the vehicle). Nope, all those options were too expensive, only wanted to pay no more AU$89 (for each tyre), because that's all he paid last time for tyres... Oh, and didn't want a wheel alignment either, because he had that done 30K ago... And to top it all off, wanted it done immediately...

    After he left disgruntled that they couldn't squeeze him immediately, and that they had to order tyres to fit (about 3-4 days lead time needed), I asked the lady behind the counter, if they get that all the time... Her reply: "a lot, especially from those with the more expensive cars"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sedrosken View Post
    Why yes, yes I am. I'm currently fiddling with Al-Jalima to see just how far I can push it
    You've named you machines after towns in the MMORPG Asheron's Call. Is that game still running? Private servers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowhiker View Post
    You've named you machines after towns in the MMORPG Asheron's Call. Is that game still running? Private servers?
    Yes, I have, and I even tried to make the names appropriate. Arwic is called such as it's the bustling trade hub of my network, Al-Jalima is the ho-dunk one-horse town in the middle of nowhere that nonetheless has some interesting inhabitants, and Samsur is nothing really special by itself but was home to several players over the years and holds a soft spot nonetheless.

    To sum up, Warner Brothers killed it off in January of 2017. There's been a few emulation efforts underway since; one, PhatAC, got a cease and desist and later was opensourced as GamesDeadLol and forked as Classic Dereth and GDLEnhanced. ACE has been the slow and steady favorite but started from scratch and is a ways off -- Phat started during the Dark Majesty days and got resurrected when AC was brutally murdered. GDLE is currently the most playable emu, but I personally prefer Classic Dereth even if it is a bit buggier and the dev behind it went MIA. That one requires you to patch your client and dats -- GDLE works with the current latest client as-is. If you're wanting to get back into playing, download ThwargLauncher, make sure you've got the latest client (you can probably find help on http://gdleac.com for that) and decal and go ahead and hop on Reefcull, the current most active server. Be prepared for a lot of things to have changed from what you are used to, depending on when you quit, and lots of things not working. The main things I can tell you off the top of my head are don't build a void mage and probably don't bother with two-handed combat yet.

    I'd like to also mention that I'm on the look out for decently priced beige cases with a decent amount of drive bays in them. My favorites are the Evercase offerings but I just don't have the disposable income to pay shipping from the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy509 View Post
    Just a short post...

    Was getting new tyres on the car last weekend (Cooper CS5 Ultras for our Suzuki Grand Vitara), and whilst waiting for them to fit them whilst in the waiting room, a rather smug looking individual comes in asking about getting two new tyres for their car (Merc C63 AMG about 3 year old)...

    He asked about tyres to suite, and the nice lady behind the counter recommended decent range of Coopers, Bridgestones and Pirelli's to suite the vehicle... (All tyres that are speed/weight rated for the vehicle). Nope, all those options were too expensive, only wanted to pay no more AU$89 (for each tyre), because that's all he paid last time for tyres... Oh, and didn't want a wheel alignment either, because he had that done 30K ago... And to top it all off, wanted it done immediately...

    After he left disgruntled that they couldn't squeeze him immediately, and that they had to order tyres to fit (about 3-4 days lead time needed), I asked the lady behind the counter, if they get that all the time... Her reply: "a lot, especially from those with the more expensive cars"...
    I'm at the other end of the spectrum with this. I want the best tires I can get for my car because it's the only thing sticking to the ground. I don't have an issue with spending near $300/us per tire for the best I can get. I run Micheline Pilot Super Sports in the summer and Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32 in the winter. I need new snow tires this year and I'm considering getting Nokian Hakkapeliitta's...just not 100% sure yet.

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    I'm willing to spend a lot, but there are limits. I know people to daily on 100 treadwear track tires (R888R for example) for the extra edge, and that is crazy.
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    I don't go that crazy. The Micheline PSS's are 300 treadwear or 30,000 miles. That's lower than many all seasons but really good considering their stickiness. Plus, I don't use them all year so I probably have one more season out of them with tread to spare. I've been riding on them for over four years now.

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    Tires never seem to last anywhere near the rated treadwear with a decent traction. I suppose highway use at constant speed is closer, but how many always drive like that compared to stop and go or winding roads? I used to get less than 15,000 through the canyons.
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    15,000 is about right for me. In theory that is less than they advertise, but I know I am using them outside of spec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    15,000 is about right for me. In theory that is less than they advertise, but I know I am using them outside of spec.
    Once I had a tire blow out a <15K, and the manufacturer claimed that it was normal wear. The 50K guarantee was BS.
    I was driving normally on a public canyon road most of the year.
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    I'm probably over 20,000 miles on mine and there's still enough left for 5K more or so.

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    Have any of you guys ever went back to your tire dealer with your "worn-out" 60k-mile-rated tires after 30k miles and got any type of replacement or pro-rated discount on new tires?
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    I don't try to use the warranty stuff. The scrubbed sidewalls are a sure giveaway that I've been abusing them.
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    I don't understand it, I always tend to go for decent without spending $$$. (The tyres I got were AU$270ea and have a 80K km (50K mi) rating - I'll be happy with 60K km (38K mi) from them). Last set of tyres on the car (Dunlop SP Sport 01) we changed at 55K km (34K mi), as while they were still OK in the dry, they had become dangerous in the wet (and we still had quite a bit before the wear markers).
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    Today the family took a drive up to O'Reillys @ Lamington NP, and went for a short bushwalk... Enjoying all the birds and other flora/fauna we came across this cute little guy...

    DSC_0019.jpg

    Sorry for the bad pic, but off the camera on the mobile using digital zoom, as didn't want to get too close, despite them being rather docile in nature... For those outside of Oz, it's typically ranked as #7 deadliest in Australia.
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    You need a 200 macro or such.
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    Does anyone know women with name as a junior (e.g., Mary Louise Smith, Jr.)? Is it a southern thing?
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    I know several. Usually a precursor to the next generation being a "III".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy509 View Post
    Today the family took a drive up to O'Reillys @ Lamington NP, and went for a short bushwalk... Enjoying all the birds and other flora/fauna we came across this cute little guy...

    DSC_0019.jpg

    Sorry for the bad pic, but off the camera on the mobile using digital zoom, as didn't want to get too close, despite them being rather docile in nature... For those outside of Oz, it's typically ranked as #7 deadliest in Australia.
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    You need a 200 macro or such.
    When you consider the 135th most poisonous critter in Australia is still 40 times more poisonous than anything else in the world I'd want to use THIS 2000/11 lens.
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    I know that lens. It's a cat (telescope) with a very long MFD of over 50 feet IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    I know that lens. It's a cat (telescope) with a very long MFD of over 50 feet IIRC.
    Is that your copy that you gave away some years back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    Is that your copy that you gave away some years back?
    No of course not. I saw one set up at a site many years ago. You need a huge geared mount to hold it steady and aim it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    No of course not. I saw one set up at a site many years ago. You need a huge geared mount to hold it steady and aim it.
    My bad, you still have yours since you never part with your unused gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    Monocytes...
    Stereocytes...

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    Due to an administrative billing error with our ISP, we had our service restricted/shaped to 256/256Kbps (down/up) yesterday.... (all corrected now).

    It was an eye opener to see how bloated the web has become, and what interesting, was the customer portal (for accounts/services/payments/etc) with the ISP become unusable when service was restricted to this speed.... eg for a simple account login took 30secs, and get get the main accounts summary page took 3 mins to load... and the account payment page took 3 attempts to load, often resulting in a timed out error...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy509 View Post
    Due to an administrative billing error with our ISP, we had our service restricted/shaped to 256/256Kbps (down/up) yesterday.... (all corrected now).

    It was an eye opener to see how bloated the web has become, and what interesting, was the customer portal (for accounts/services/payments/etc) with the ISP become unusable when service was restricted to this speed.... eg for a simple account login took 30secs, and get get the main accounts summary page took 3 mins to load... and the account payment page took 3 attempts to load, often resulting in a timed out error...
    It's like some countries where you are out in the woods with satellite.
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    We're still on 3mbps/768kbps down/up normal service out here, but with even more people using it even more demandingly I've taken to just sticking to my phone for internet things. There's a reason I opted for an unlimited data plan when I got my V30. Home internet's still fine for extremely light browsing (forums and text-only news/wiki viewing) and IRC/Discord so I'm not entirely out in the woods yet.

    I may have already said this but I'm still taken aback by how much cleaner the sound output from Samsur's Audigy2ZS is than the analog out from my main's integrated HD Audio codec. Has me tempted to either move my stereo to the other side of the room to hook up to Samsur instead or steal the Audigy2ZS for my main, which I haven't had open in so long I don't remember if I have a PCI slot in it or not. I have an Audigy SB0090 to put back in this one, so it's not like it loses much from the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sedrosken View Post
    We're still on 3mbps/768kbps down/up normal service out here.
    Damn that sucks. I had a 3/3 mbps Comcast cable connection in the late 1990s.
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    So not everything was awesome about today. That $1500 monitor I waited over 2 months for? One of them had a rough ride. At least the other survived and I'm typing on it now.

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    Damn, that sucks. Will the shipping company cover the cost? I realize that doesn't get you your two months back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    So not everything was awesome about today. That $1500 monitor I waited over 2 months for? One of them had a rough ride. At least the other survived and I'm typing on it now.

    http://prntscr.com/lgjzz9
    You are typing on a monitor? Did they arrive via slow boat from the Chinese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    You are typing on a monitor? Did they arrive via slow boat from the Chinese?
    Maybe he likes touchscreen typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    Maybe he likes touchscreen typing.
    I've observed people with the MS detachable tablet PCs doing that, but it looks inefficient.
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    It's OK, only managers do that, so it doesn't affect an organisation's productivity.

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    Lunar, I set my keyboard on it on my desk. That way I don't have to look up while I hunt and peck. This is why I needed such a large screen.

    I kid, of course. I bought two, one works and is in use. But the setup looks kinda sad with that spare VESA mount sitting unused.

    http://prntscr.com/lh1tq2

    That is going to be so many pixels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    Lunar, I set my keyboard on it on my desk. That way I don't have to look up while I hunt and peck. This is why I needed such a large screen.

    I kid, of course. I bought two, one works and is in use. But the setup looks kinda sad with that spare VESA mount sitting unused.

    http://prntscr.com/lh1tq2

    That is going to be so many pixels.
    So you bought two really short screen displays to stack on top of each other? Are you monitoring some process?
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    A part of my job is monitoring stuff, that will be on the top screen. Keep in mind each one of these screens is 5120 x 2160 pixels, and 34" diagonal, so "really short" probably isn't the right description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddrueding View Post
    A part of my job is monitoring stuff, that will be on the top screen. Keep in mind each one of these screens is 5120 x 2160 pixels, and 34" diagonal, so "really short" probably isn't the right description.
    How are the pixels relevant other than making the image possibly smoother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMist View Post
    How are the pixels relevant other than making the image possibly smoother?
    Pixel density of the amount of items you can have in a given space is the relevant part.

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    Just the number of windows that need to be active. Each one has a minimum number of pixels it can take up, and I needed more of them.
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