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Prof.Wizard
07-05-2002, 10:50 AM
Really strange. I used to see this site. Don't know when it started... Now it just can't load. After some time I get the usual "The page cannot be displayed" of dead links...

Facts:
-Firewall is deactivated
-Using two browsers: IE 6 and Opera 6
-Other sites of .mil designation (namely, www.navy.mil and www.af.mil) function normally
-William (Rocco) has been able to access the site from his PC in Greece.

What could it be? Should I call X-Files?! :-?
P5-133XL
07-05-2002, 11:54 AM
first do a tracert (from a dos box) to www.army.mil and see where it is being blocked.
Mercutio
07-05-2002, 11:58 AM
I *do* know that there have been problems with one of the European backbones (Ebone) in the last few days. When backbones go down, routers lose static routes and it can take awhile for BGP (dynamically configured) routes to re-configure throughout the network.
Maybe there just wasn't a way to get between you and army.mil.
Prof.Wizard
07-05-2002, 04:09 PM
Mark,
I won't be using DOS even if I had to pee on my PC to stop it from overheating... :roll:
There used to be a cool Windows progie which traced the "signal" across the 'Net... Back in 1997-8 (when I was in high school). Its name was GeoBoy... is it still around?! A quick search showed me no more... :(

Sam,
where do you get your information about which backbone is down and which not?
Cliptin
07-05-2002, 04:13 PM
Mark,
I won't be using DOS even if I had to pee on my PC to stop it from overheating... :roll:
There used to be a cool Windows progie which traced the "signal" across the 'Net... Back in 1997-8 (when I was in high school). Its name was GeoBoy... is it still around?! A quick search showed me no more... :(

Sam,
where do you get your information about which backbone is down and which not?

He meant command prompt. start->run-> cmd

tracert www.army.mil
Prof.Wizard
07-05-2002, 04:18 PM
:oops:
Mercutio
07-05-2002, 04:19 PM
Please don't call me Sam, please. No one calls me Sam.

Hit http://www.internettrafficreport.com for some more info.
I heard about Euroland backbone problems on slashdot.org a couple days ago. Evidently it's worldcom-related.
Prof.Wizard
07-05-2002, 04:31 PM
Hit http://www.internettrafficreport.com for some more info.
I heard about Euroland backbone problems on slashdot.org a couple days ago. Evidently it's worldcom-related.
OK Mercutio. Thanx.
Nice to know that link for "traffic jams"... :wink:

I executed tracert. It somehow repeats in some qwest.net [205.171.x.x] servers... then gives 4-5 IPs (no other data) and then times out before reaching the target IP (of www.army.mil)... In comparison, www.navy.mil passes from another server circuitry... ALTER.NET [152.63.x.x]

Isn't it strange?
Prof.Wizard
07-05-2002, 04:52 PM
Wait a sec... is this tracert working or what?! :frowner:

It gives me "timed out" a totally normal connection (that of my Uni at www.uniroma1.it) and "Destination net unreachable" to the normal-working www.navy.mil

Damn. Where is GeoBoy when you need him?!
NRG = mc˛
07-05-2002, 05:21 PM
Try Neotrace if you want something with more features. It also graphs you the physical path of the hops on a map etc..
Prof.Wizard
07-05-2002, 05:42 PM
Thanx Will, will it work with XP?

BTW... http://www.visualware.com/
They seem to provide solutions for tracing.
NRG = mc˛
07-05-2002, 06:29 PM
I guess so. Works on 2000
Prof.Wizard
09-12-2002, 05:49 AM
OK... now computer gurus of this world... enlighten me! :-?

Two months later and I still can't access www.army.mil . It's not a firewall issue since even if I shut it down, neither me nor my housemate can access the site.

I guess they probably have disallowed the first two or three numbers of my IP, can't explain it in another way. But why? I didn't try to hack the place... :(
NRG = mc˛
09-12-2002, 06:12 AM
Someone on your provider might though :P
Tea
09-12-2002, 06:20 AM
I think it's some kind of security thing, Constantine. I can get www.army.mil OK, or 140.183.234.10, but I can't ping it.
Prof.Wizard
09-13-2002, 01:51 AM
Someone on your provider might though :P
So I call them and tell them what? I can't access a certain site?!
Are you sure this will work...?

Whatever security measure I just don't get it. www.af.mil and www.navy.mil load just OK... :-?
Tea
09-13-2002, 01:59 AM
Well, of course. Planes and ships travel a lot faster and further than smelly old boots do, you know.
flagreen
09-13-2002, 02:02 AM
Maybe it looks too much like a game site and Greeks aren't allowed?
Prof.Wizard
09-13-2002, 02:11 AM
Maybe it looks too much like a game site and Greeks aren't allowed?
Hahahahah... that was really mean... :lol:

Well, after the whole world ROFL with my country now the law is going for scrap, thank god.
flagreen
09-13-2002, 02:16 AM
Sorry, I couldn't resist. You know Davin is working on a website project for the Pentagon. Maybe you could post this question on SR and get some info out of him. Or even email him. He had a thread in the Bar and Grille about what the definition of web site is. Why not try there?
Groltz
09-13-2002, 04:59 AM
Well PW, here are my results from pinging your www.army.mil

MAP (http://www.storageforum.net/groltz/Map.gif)


LIST (http://www.storageforum.net/groltz/List.gif)


INFO (http://www.storageforum.net/groltz/Info.gif)


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