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Tannin
01-28-2002, 11:07 PM
Hi Doug, a small bug report for you. The browser detection routine on the front page is a bit trigger happy. With both of my primary browsers, it gives me a plain, blank page with no links at all. On inspecting the page source, I see this:

<frameset border="1" frameborder="no" framespacing="1" rows="150,*">
<frame src="main_top.htm" name="sf_top" noresize scrolling=no>
<frame src="main_body.htm" name="sf_bottom" noresize>
<noframes>
Please upgrade your web browser. Your browser needs to support frames. Visit Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com)

</frameset>

Both browsers do support frames, and work just fine on Storage Forum.

PS: Not the slightest intention of visiting Microsoft for a browser downgrade!
Handruin
01-29-2002, 12:27 AM
I have since reworked the page and included a variety of browsers to choose from. :wink:

I followed the guidlines of W3C (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/present/frames.html) for building frames. If it still does not work, then I will need to send you a new browser because it doesn't support the W3C standard. j/k Seriously, if it doesn't work i will ditch the frames because I don't know what is going on.
Tannin
01-30-2002, 03:30 AM
Sorry Doug, still no dice. It's not the frame code itself that is the problem, so far as I can see, but the browser-detection routine. Why don't you email me a copy of the front page HTML source. Seeing as I'm the one with the odd-ball browser, why not let me debug it for you?

I'm no good at pearl and suchlike fancy stuff, but I can handle HTML OK. Even Javascript, if it's in reasonable moderation and I wash my hands carefully afterwards.
Tea
01-30-2002, 09:40 AM
Ahh! It's not just my OS/2 browsers. Navigator 4.08 (the last "real" Netscape before all that Communicator bloatware destroyed it) is the same. (A Windows 2000 machine, this one.)
Handruin
01-30-2002, 01:51 PM
Here is the index page that calls the other two frame pages. I have no special code going on in here. As I mentioned above, I followed the WC3 method of creating frames. Maybe it's something else.

Index.html


<html>
<head>
<title>www.storageforum.net
</title>
</head>


<frameset border="1" frameborder="no" framespacing="1" rows="150,*">
<frame src="main_top.htm" name="sf_top" noresize scrolling=no>
<frame src="main_body.htm" name="sf_bottom" noresize>
<noframes>
Please upgrade your web browser. Your browser needs to support frames.


Visit:

<ul>
Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/ie)

Netscape (http://home.netscape.com/computing/download/index.html?cp=hophb2)

Opera (http://www.opera.com/download/) for frame support.
[/list]
</noframes>
</frameset>



</html>


main_top.htm





<html>
<head>
<title>www.StorageForum.net</title>
<meta name="TITLE" value=""/>
<meta name="alias" content="http://www.StorageForum.net">
<meta name="STATUS" value="Draft"/>
<meta name="LANGUAGE" value="en-US"/>
<meta name="ABSTRACT" value=""/>
<meta name="LASTUPDATE" value="null"/>
<meta name="SECURITY" value="Public"/>
<meta name="KEYWORDS" value=""/>
<meta name="FORMAT" value="text/html"/>
<meta name="COPYRIGHT" value="Copyright (c) 2002 by Handruin"/>
<meta name="ROBOTS" value="index,follow"/>
<meta name="CHARSET" value="ISO-8859-1"/>
<meta name="OWNER" type="email" value="webmaster@StorageForum.net"/>
<meta name="DOCUMENTCOUNTRYCODE" value="us"/>
<meta name="DOCUMENTLANGUAGECODE" value="en"/>
<meta name="DESCRIPTION" content=""/>

<link rel="stylesheet" href="scripts/sfstyletop.css">

</head>
<body class="mainbody">
img/sflogo.jpg (/)
</body>
</html>



main_body.htm





<html>
<head>
<title>www.StorageForum.net</title>
<meta name="TITLE" value=""/>
<meta name="alias" content="http://www.StorageForum.net">
<meta name="STATUS" value="Draft"/>
<meta name="LANGUAGE" value="en-US"/>
<meta name="ABSTRACT" value=""/>
<meta name="LASTUPDATE" value="null"/>
<meta name="SECURITY" value="Public"/>
<meta name="KEYWORDS" value=""/>
<meta name="FORMAT" value="text/html"/>
<meta name="COPYRIGHT" value="Copyright (c) 2002 by Handruin"/>
<meta name="ROBOTS" value="index,follow"/>
<meta name="CHARSET" value="ISO-8859-1"/>
<meta name="OWNER" type="email" value="webmaster@StorageForum.net"/>
<meta name="DOCUMENTCOUNTRYCODE" value="us"/>
<meta name="DOCUMENTLANGUAGECODE" value="en"/>
<meta name="DESCRIPTION" content=""/>

<link rel="stylesheet" href="scripts/sfstyle.css">

</head>
<body class="mainbody">
<table border=0 height=100% width=100% cellpadding=1 cellspacing=1>
<tr>
<td align=center>


<table border=1 height=150 width=400 cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td class="main1l">
<center>Welcome to The Storage Forum




</p>
- Join The Storage Forum - (http://www.storageforum.net/phpBB2/)</center>
</td>
</tr>
</table>


</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>


I did miss a couple things which have fixed and included the fixes in this code. :eekers:
Tea
01-31-2002, 08:46 AM
Hmmm ... .Curioser and curioser. I whacked that into a few files here at home (on my W2K machine with Navigator 4.08) and they worked just fine. So I went to www.storageforum.net and .... that worked fine too.

I'll try it at the office in the morning on my odd-ball browsers.

I'm utterly certain that this W2K machine couldn't see the contents of the frames yesterday.

I'll get back to you.
Handruin
01-31-2002, 08:52 AM
Hmmm ... .Curioser and curioser. I whacked that into a few files here at home (on my W2K machine with Navigator 4.08) and they worked just fine. So I went to www.storageforum.net and .... that worked fine too.

I'll try it at the office in the morning on my odd-ball browsers.

I'm utterly certain that this W2K machine couldn't see the contents of the frames yesterday.

I'll get back to you.


It very well could have been my coding. I left out the letter "L" in "table" in two sections. This may have been enough to upset the browsers. I have since fixed this yesterday, this could be why.
Tea
01-31-2002, 09:00 AM
Sounds very likely. The way that different browsers handle tables, especially slightly malformed tables .... enough to make you tear your hair out and spoon all dislexic fish often.