OT: Apology to China

[Tannin]

Just out of a sense of tradition, of course.

[NRG = mc²]

I'd be surprised if anyone posts here :smile:

Except me of course.

[time]

Only a fool would post here.

[flagreen]

Only a fool would post here.


I resemble that remark Sir!

[CougTek]

Please gentlemen, stop talking and keep quiet. Mister Post 1000th has arrived.

;-)

[Tea]

Fine. Going to do the other 993 posts yourself then?

Err .. welcome aboard Coug. :)

[DrunkenBastard]

Why hello there Tea you sexy young thing. Fancy meeting you here! Care for a drink?

[flagreen]

Careful DB, you don't know where she's been.

[flagreen]

Well now that DB has graced us with his presense all we are missing is the Japanese Lady who shoots scrambled eggs out of her ass to make this site an official Bar and Grille. :o

[Tannin]

Tea claims to be of indeterminate ancestory - it's kind of hard to tell under all that hair - but, to the best of her knowledge, is not Japanese. She most certainly does not do that ... er ... thing that Flagreen refers to.

And she's a little shy, doubt she'll speak for herself. (Was that a blush I glimpsed?) But, thankyou DB: perhaps a gin and tonic for her.

[Pradeep]

Well now that DB has graced us with his presense all we are missing is the Japanese Lady who shoots scrambled eggs out of her ass to make this site an official Bar and Grille. :o


Ahh Flagreen, I think you have mistaken that act with the Thai girls and the ping pong balls ........

[flagreen]

They may have been ping pong balls when they went in, but they were definitely scrambled eggs coming out. Eww...... yuck.

[timwhit]

They may have been ping pong balls when they went in, but they were definitely scrambled eggs coming out. Eww...... yuck.


That had to be one of the worst posts ever...

Don't ask me why I ever downloaded that video...

-Tim

[timwhit]

Forum seems incredibly fast.

Who is the service provider?

-Tim

[HellDiver]

Oh, yes, the AtC... "They tried to shoot it, they tried to drawn it..."

I'm getting the idea that this thread is going to catch some cold on our funerals! ;)

[Tea]

Just for you, Helldiver.

http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/X-15/Small/E-4942.jpg

And '59 was a very good year.

[Cliptin]

My older brother was born in '59.

******

Who was the jerk that suggested Guiness as good beer? I started a pint the other day but I wasn't happy about finishing it.

[Handruin]

They may have been ping pong balls when they went in, but they were definitely scrambled eggs coming out. Eww...... yuck.


That had to be one of the worst posts ever...

Don't ask me why I ever downloaded that video...

-Tim


Don't ask me either...that was nasty as can be! There was no describing them eggs. :o

[flagreen]

Who will be 1000th poster this time? Only 982 posts to go!

[Santilli]

Hi guys!!

gs

[flagreen]

Welcome Greg!

[The JoJo]

Hello Santilli, and everyone else!

[yesnomaybe]

Who was the jerk that suggested Guiness as good beer? I started a pint the other day but I wasn't happy about finishing it.

Guiness does not travel well; the stuff you get in Ireland is vastly superior. Having said that, it is still largely an acquired taste.

[Santilli]

gs

[Tannin]

Greg, that must be the shortest, most succinct post you've ever made. Are you becoming another EBB in your old age?

[HellDiver]

Nice to see ya, Greg. Welcome aboard!

Tony :
Yeah, I've seen quite a few of those lately from Greg (on SR, anyway). I think Greg's going through some tough time. Personal problems, perhaps...

[Pradeep]

Umm, guys, make sure you read the little bit of text in the post subject area of each post, Greg likes to use that and it can lead to confusion ;)

Good to see you Greg!

[HellDiver]

Oh! (Damn'! I'd never figure looking that way, I must admit!)

Maybe it's not the personal problems thing after all - it's simply the switch to phpBB2 affecting him - Jive didn't have "subj" field for every post, IIRC!

On the other hand... I don't remember Greg being so... short on words, so to speak... ;)

[Groltz]

Took the OS upgrade plunge last night. It's now Groltz XP 8)

[Tannin]

Another victim of the dark side. :(

[Santilli]

Nice to see you all, and nice to have a place where the forum members can continue.

Glad to see you all here. Great time for a change for me.

gs

[flagreen]

Did you catch the Shane Mosley fight on HBO this past weekend?

[Santilli]

I guess this guy has had Mosley's number since Olympic trials?

What happened?

Thanks

gs

[flagreen]

He destroyed Mosley. Put him down in the second, then went on to thoroughly whip him through the rest of the rounds. It was not even close. Mosley lost a unanimous decision and his title. The Guy who won reminds me of Tommy Hearns. Tall and lankly with good power for his weight and plenty of speed. Did I see where Bernard Hopkins is going to fight Roy Jones? That ought to be good if it happens.

[Santilli]

Flagreen:
I saw only one of Roy Jones fights, a middleweight title fight.

The guy put on a fair to unimpressive show, winning by decision. He fought pretty much the entire fight with a jab, and hook same hand.

Turns out he broke, or injured the other hand in prefight, or during the first couple rounds.

THAT was incredibly impressive. Seriously scary.

I worked out next to Milton McCrory and Thomas Hearns in Kalakaua Gym. I think I hit way harder then McCrory, or, he may just have been taking it easy, at least that was my observation watching and hearing his punches, vs. mine.

Hearns was at least 175, more like 185 when I saw him. He was huge, and hit a ton. I talked to the old timers, and they said the only guy they can remember hitting as hard as Hearns was George Foreman. Foreman would lift the bag up, airborne, off the chains, when he threw upper cuts.

Frankly, Roy Jones maybe one of the greatest of all-time, with no one to fight.

gs

[flagreen]

Yeah it's a shame he can't get a fight. It could be such a great sport if it wasn't for promoters and other scum being involved. Of course no one wants to fight Jones anyway. I saw one of his attempts to move up the heavyweight division a while back which appeared too much of a stretch for him. He won but was unimpressive in doing so.

I'm impressed you got to work out with those guys. Need a manager? :D

[CougTek]

Greg is more at the retirement stage of his boxing career than at the beginning. Roberto Duran, who is about as old as Greg (50), retired for good last week and he was one of the oldest active boxers up to then.

[Santilli]

Roberto Duran was my idol. As a lightweight, champ for 8 years, 5 titles, kicked Leonards' ass. Just an incredible fighter. Take a punch, hit you super hard with both hands,
hands of stone...
As a lightweight, he was the best of all time.

Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown for managers, really the original dream team.

I use one of their techniques. You tie your feet together with rope, shoulder width apart, at the knees, or lower, and try to fight like that. It teaches you to keep your feet out of the bucket, and gives you more punching power, with both hands, on your combinations.

I thought Duran was the best of all time, until I saw a tape of Sugar Ray Robinson...
As Ali said, Ali was the greatest heavyweight of all time, but Sugar Ray Robinson, pound for pound was the greatest fighter of all time. Why? He had a whole bunch of guys, that if not for Ray Robinson, would have been the greatest of all time. Marcel Cerdan, Randy Turpin, Jake LaMotta,
Bobo Olson, that welterweight from the midwest that kicked ass, all of these guys were incredible. Most moved up and won the light heavy title, since they couldn't beat Ray at middleweight.
Plus, his record, 222-and 20 something losses will never be equaled, or approached.

Worked very well for me.

I also got my ass kicked by Dennis Alexio, the undefeated world heavyweight Karate champion, who is a better body puncher then Mike Tyson, and, if he ever fought Tyson, would give him a good fight. Mike has 10 pounds on Dennis.

Anyway, he was trying to hit me in the heart, and stop mine. I blocked one with my arm, but another I turned, and caught it on the end of one of my ribs, breaking off the tip.
Hurt for 4 months.

The upside is I spared him for days, usually 5 -10 rounds a day.
And, the reason he was mad is he put his head in the middle of a beautiful 7 punch combination.

since knee surgery, today was the first day I've felt really good on my legs. I went full court, as the only ref, for a 9th grade girls game, for about an hour and a 1/2, and was out running the girls on the break.

I'm jazzed.

Lately I have been practicing a bit of another martial art.

It mainly involves 45 caliber, and JEHH would enjoy it.

gs
:lol:

[Santilli]

The other part of fighting is, after doing it for a long time, even though it doesn't look like it, the septium on my nose is whacked out of position, and needs to be moved back so I can sleep, and breath.


Temporary memory loss is another affect long term exposure to heavy punching by Dennis Alexio caused.

Too bad. I enjoyed beating up the Philipino pros in the gym, who were lighter then I was, and less experienced...

I guess I do have a bit of a mean streak...
gs

[Santilli]

Those guys I named, had records like 105-2 for Cerdan.
Lamotta was similar, but with something like 6 losses to Robinson.
Turpin likewise, and Bobo Olson, all, were awesome fighters.

Ray Robinson took on and beat, the best welters, and middles for 25 years.

gs

[Pradeep]

Lately I have been practicing a bit of another martial art.

It mainly involves 45 caliber, and JEHH would enjoy it.

gs
:lol:


IPSC? IDPA?

[Santilli]

That's IPSC, I think.

Just getting intrested...
gs

[Pradeep]

IPSC is great fun. Can be very costly, if you decide to go into "Open" class. Much more affordable is a stock class gun, which has limits on what mods you can do to it. If you wanna run around and shoot the crap out of bits of cardboard and knock down steel "pepper poppers" nothing is better :) And it's great to be competitive with your fellow shooters, a great day outdoors.

IDPA takes themselves more seriously, using cover and stuff like that.

[Tea]

I confess to a total lack of interest in the violent arts, be they conducted with fists or with more high-tech implements. No matter, gentlemen. I don't really need to return to this thread until I slip in to claim my rightful post #1000 and right the wrong that CougTek inflicted on us all back when the worl was younger.

[Tea]

Read "world" was younger.

Who? Me? Preview my posts?

[CougTek]

Nope Tea, you won't have number 1000 this time either. The 1000th was, is and will be mine, like it or not. I said I would let you #2000, but I never said I would leave you #1000 (except when I thought you called me a son of a b**ch in a thread on the old feedback forum).

[Pradeep]

I think the solution is clear to all of us. Doug accidentally slips his hand off the mouse whilst in the admin control panel, causing CougTek's account to be temporarily suspended, which by an incredible coincidence occurs at the same time as posts 980-1000 of Apology to China. :D

[Tea]

Yes!

[Santilli]

Well, except maybe, a nice little 375 H & H.

Anyway, I figure I'll use what I've got, SAA and a 45 acp.

gs

[Pradeep]

Well, except maybe, a nice little 375 H & H.

Anyway, I figure I'll use what I've got, SAA and a 45 acp.

gs


Is that a single stack and double stack 1911 style? Cause single stack won't get you far in IPSC. Need to get to at least 13 rounds per clip to be competitive, even then most are moving to .40 S&W for more capacity (16).

[Santilli]

I was planning on using a 45 SAA Linebaugh, and backing that up with a Kimber, 45 ACP, with multiple clips.

I did fire the range masters 40 S & W, and it comes out of recoil very nicely, and, it's a big slug, at good velocity, with litte recoil. Sweet gun, Para-ordanance, and, I was hitting stuff with it. NOT one hole like him, but MOBG
"Minute of Bad Guy".

gs

[Tea]

Dear oh dear. What on earth has happened to the China Thread? First it's ping-pong balls in the unmentionable, then it's naked and mindless brutality not even trying to disguide itself as a sport, and then it's bloody guns again.

sigh

And everybody seems to be ignoring it. Guess it's up to me and Tannin.

[Tannin]

I guess you're right, kid. It's a long long way to 1000 posts, but we will do it, you and me.

So, what you gonna start us off with?

[Tea]

Well, how about I fill you in on my day?

Been the quietest day I can remember on Storage Forum in quite a while. I know it is the weekend, Sunday night over here - that makes it, er , first thing Sunday moring on the East Coast USA I think, but that's no excuse. And for once, seeing as you are hiding in the office pretending to do your taxation paperwork, dear Tannin, and therefore family-free, we can play on the web as much as we like.

Anyway, we've damn-near finished the mammoth revision to the Red Hill hard drive guide, or brought it up to date enough not to completely cringe every time someone hits it anyway, and filled in the gaps with some fun on Storage Review.

[Tannin]

I'm not "pretending"! I'm really doing it! Honest. Well, some of the time, anyway.

[Tea]

I see you managed to insult Picard again.

[Tannin]

Oh, everybody insults Picard.

But, seeing as I've got your undivided attention now, tell me this: What did you think of the guy over in SR who started off asking why people think RAID 0 is unreliable and ended up being told by HM the King that he could improve his chances with multiple controllers, and interpreted this to mean spend another $25.00 for another promise ultra66 and mod it to a Fasttrack66?

I mean, everybody knows we love our SCSI and don't mess with RAID of any flavour, but wasn't that a little over the top?

And another thing - did I tell you that The Giver messaged me today asking for his new sig?

What's that?

No! I'm not telling you what it is, you can wait and find out for yourself, same as everybody else.

Don't know about you, little sister, but I'm going home to bed. You can stay here and play a little longer if you like.

[Tannin]

Bloody sisters. I've been home for hours and she still hasn't turned up. Sometimes I think I should have invented a brother instead. At least I might get to spend more time at the pub that way. Where is everyone?

Bartender!?

[Santilli]

gs :wink:

[timwhit]

Tannin, I think you are just trying to catch up to Mercutio.....

[Buck]

Tannin, apparently you have gobs of time on you hands. I'll have the Bartender put a kettle on for us, and then help you out in the garden; tomatoes should be perfect this time of year. Hopefully in the next month or so, I can start planting again. The peach tree is already in bloom, and the lemons are deliciously ripe. To bad the Papaya trees didn't quite make it through the winter. I figured that some would get hit, but the smaller ones would be protected by the taller ones. I have one left, and maybe it will come back. If not, I'll have to buy some more Hawaiian Papayas and plant the seeds.

BR

[Bartender]

My apologies for the bar being so quiet Tea. I know how much you enjoy the action, but many of the patrons have responsibilities (life) that take them away from here. Since you seem to have lots of energy, why don't you help me hook up some new kegs, I only have about 89 left.

[Bartender]

Two teas coming right up. Would you like Tetley or PG?

[James]

Don't worry Tony. I laid into Picard over his stupid assertion that RAID0 gives its greatest performance benefit in a desktop situation - and that anyone who thinks differently doesn't know what they're talking about.

It seems that my reply pretty much killed the thread :

http://forums.storagereview.net/viewtopic.php?p=15775

... but we'll see.

[Tannin]

It was not one of the world's great threads anyway. (Unlike this one, of course.)

Seems to be my week for being rude to Picard. (Though I grant you it's a sort of public duty.) Did it in that thread and then again and much more explicitly in another thread, when he started on his "75GXPs work perfectly and it's all Microsoft's fault" mania once again. I have to admit, the guy has phenomenal persistance. He keeps hammering away at that line over and over and over, must have made over 100 posts on that same exact topic, and has never seemed in the slightest worried that he is repeating nonsense without troubling to find any evidence or logic to back it. Amazing.

[Buck]

Tannin,

That "Microsoft's fault" notion has always bewildered me. I understand the concepts of cache failing to 'flush', but the same principle should hold true if you simply cut power to the drive, yet it doesn't happen. Through SMART commands and proprietary utilities, drive manufacturers know (obviously we do too) how to recover from these types failures and understand that it is only data corruption, not sector corruption. Doesn't Picard even know the concept behind an Error Correction routine?

I've resolved within myself that certain comments simply are not worthy of a reply.

BR

[James]

I've resolved within myself that certain comments simply are not worthy of a reply.

Yeah, that would be my attitude if I didn't have in the back of my mind : "some new guy is going to come along, read that, and get bad information."

[James]

I see we're a pub and brewery now. :)

[timwhit]

I see we're a pub and brewery now. :)


I don't understand why it is the "Storage Forum Pub & Brewery". Why can't it just be "Pub & Brewery"?

-Tim

[Tea]

Hell Buck, you know me.

I blame Microsoft for the proliferation of bloatware, excessive OS prices, blue screens of death, failed installs, destabilisation of independant standards, lack of innovation in the software industry, for buggering up the classic 101 keyboard, for Australia's balance of payments defecit with the United States of Seattle, for inflicting GDI printers and crappy Winmodems on the entire world, for turning the whole damn internet into a clone of AOL, for making Apple uses look almost intelligent, for the failure of the Russian wheat crop, for starting the Arab-Israeli wars, and for the Great Fire of London. Not to mention the Black Death.

Now whatever you may say about our other talents (or lack of them, more to the point), happen to be very good indeed at some things. Trust me, If there was any way to blame Microsoft for the self-destructing IBM hard drives, Tannin and I would have thought of it long since.

[Groltz]

I see we're a pub and brewery now. :)


I wonder what's brewing...

[Bartender]

I wonder what's brewing...


What would you like?

[Tea]

Ahh, I see that you are up early once again Flagreen. Top of the mornin' to you. I think you'll beat your arch-rival CougTek today, he was posting up until about 8PM my time, which is to say ~ four hours ago. He will be sleeping it off right now, no doubt, while you are enjoying the best part of the day, with the birds singing and the early sunlight gentle through the trees, the air fresh and cool and invigorating outside. And you, it seems, indoors and hunched over the computer, oblivious to it all.

Ahh, we humans, we are funny creatures.

[flagreen]

Well that's what having kids does to you. I drive my son to school at 7:00AM each weekday. If I've stayed up late on line it can be a bit rough crawling out of the rack on time. At the moment we are having a cold snap here in Florida. Temperatures are in the 40F range here in St. Petersburg. So most of the migratory birds who winter down here are probably wondering if they actually are in Florida at all. As for me, I enjoy the cold weather we have each year as 9 months of summer gets very old.

[Mercutio]

You call 40F cold? That's horrid. Come visit me or Clocker or timwhit (or, if you're truly a glutton for punishment, Cougtek), next time there's a real cold snap. 40F cold... 40F is just about cold enough to put on a jacket, that's how cold 40F is.

Of course, for whatever reason, the average temps where I'm at have hovered around 40F all winter (about 25 degrees above normal), so perhaps my snow-hating self shouldn't be complaining.

There's a reason every aged New Yorker moves to Florida, you know. :P

[timwhit]

Madison is a wonderful place in the winter. Two days ago, it was 6 degrees F after wind chill, man thats cold.

Let's see what it is today, as I haven't made it outside yet.

20°F Feels Like: 12°F

UV Index: 3 Low
Wind: From the Northeast at 6 mph
Dew Point: 6°F
Humidity: 48 %
Visibility: Unlimited
Barometer: 30.37 inches and rising

The wind isn't bad today, but some days like a lot of days the wind is horrible here. Forget Chicago, Madison is always windy.

[Tannin]

Lest we forget.

[CougTek]

Ahh, I see that you are up early once again Flagreen. Top of the mornin' to you. I think you'll beat your arch-rival CougTek today, he was posting up until about 8PM my time, which is to say ~ four hours ago. He will be sleeping it off right now, no doubt, while you are enjoying the best part of the day,...
Too bad I missed that one. I'll make an effort this week to wake up early and give Bill a bit of competition.

It's true that morning is a great part of the day. I love to drive early in the week-end, around 6am when I'm almost alone on the highway. Watching the Sun rise with a coffee cup near is one of my favorite moment. Unfortunately, I'm not a morning man at all so it doesn't happen very often. I hope this will change as the years will pass on and my body will need less sleeping hours.

[CougTek]

Lest we forget.
What means lest? Least maybe?

[Pradeep]

so that not

ie. So that we do not forget.

[Tannin]

"Lest" is old English, seldom used these days, Coug. It means either "for fear that" or "so as not to". I was using it in the second sense. It is most commonly heard in just one particular phrase these days - that "lest we forget" I said above.

It was a little naughty of me, somewhat irreverant, as "lest we forget" is the phrase usually used as the concluding words in a memorial service for soldiers who gave their lives. It's sort of shorthand for something like: "we are all standing here at the dawn service with our heads bowed and our hats off to make sure that we never forget the debt we owe to these brave men who gave their lives".

Now I suppose I better define "irreverant"! :)

[CougTek]

7h49am, not too bad considering the hour change hun?

Thanks for the explanation about Lest.

No need to define "irreverant". Irreverant is the same as the french word "irrévérencieux" and I don't need a dictionary to tell you that. So in case you ever need to plug that term in a french sentence...

[CougTek]

I just remarked the hour of the forum hasn't been adjusted yet. I thought this stuff could be set to automatically change to adapt to the summer and winter time. I guess I consider little Windows commodities a given even for the Unix world.

[Tannin]

I have mixed feelings about changing back from summer time. On the one hand, it's good to change the clocks at the office so that I can open the doors on time. On the other hand, my main clock here at home I don't change. It is set to daylight saving 365 days a year, simply because I hate having to set the bloody clock back! I really, really hate getting home at this time of year, when nearly every day is perfect, after there is no longer any sunshine to speak of. And I don't like being reminded of the approach of winter every time I look at the clock.

[Mercutio]

Most of Indiana doesn't do DST. I'm fortunate enough to be in the small, sensible part that takes time changes with Chicago, but there are actually places in Indiana (e.g. State Line City) where one side of a town is in a different time zone from the other.

[i]

I am extremely sorry to do this (flagreen, you may actually have to moderate something!), but I noticed this story on CNN this evening:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/04/07/china.us.spyplane.ap/index.html

Everyone, please forgive me for posting something to this thread that actually relates to the "apology to China". ;)

[flagreen]

I am extremely sorry to do this (flagreen, you may actually have to moderate something!), but I noticed this story on CNN this evening:

I would have expected this sort of rabble rousing to have come from a consonant. I had thought you vowels knew better than to misbehave in such a loathsome fashion.

:monky: Watch it!

[Handruin]

Maybe "i" was upset that no one bought him/her on the wheel of fortune? :sqnt:

[Bartender]

It's been pretty quiet around here. The bar is well stocked, the kitchen is ready, but the patrons are few. I thought of providing some entertainment (as if some of the regulars weren't enough). After carefully reading through some other posts, a gaming corner sounded pretty decent. What do you think about that Buck?

[Buck]

That sounds like a good, but risky, idea Bartender. You know, Handruin and his mates have the same idea. How do you expect to make money? Remember, you're already well stocked with goods, that aren't selling, why do you want to invest more money into something that looks so risky?

BR

[Bartender]

But is it really that risky? Regardless of what I sell, I already have a location, I have regular customers (lively bunch at that), and we even hold the occassional party. So there is some activity, but perhaps we don't appeal to enough folks. So I figured, that a few computer systems plugged together in a big booth, with some flat panel displays, and we'd be set.

It's true that electronics and food or beverages don't mix too well, but only the cheap stuff is most susceptible, like keyboards and mice. You sell me some pretty good sets for under $30.00. We'll just include that in our overhead, and let everyone pay a few cents more for beer.

I think the risk is in not trying.

[Buck]

I'm glad you feel so confident Bartender. Once you get that rig setup, we'll all give it a try, and let you know what we think. Make sure you spec out the right components, and have a special on beer that night. You know, the usual gimmick, 1 pint of ale for $2.00 for all gamers. Maybe a special from the kitchen would be good too.

BR

[timwhit]

Buck are you having a conversation with yourself again? Time to see the therapist. :)

[Bartender]

Good points Buck, I think we'll throw in few specials as a lure. We could even give games away at first if you purchase so-much from the kitchen.

[Buck]

Good idea, but I think the key is not relying on the game itself. You have the place and atmosphere, just provide an extra service for now. Who knows, eventually, you might just open a separate gaming room. You could rent that out by the hour.

[CougTek]

Could someone explain me why the damn Mother Queen had to be celebrated at 6h30am Estern Time? One of my neighbor watched the ceremony when it started this morning, but somehow forgot to lower the volume. I was awaken by Gregorian songs in the middle of "my" night. No need to tell you that I'm now quite pissed.

What were they thinking in UK?

[Mercutio]

Maybe because it was 1:30-something GMT over there, which is a perfectly reasonable time to throw a funeral.

The more interesting question is, why would a self respecting quebecois (sorry I don't know what all the right special characters are) watch the Queen mother's funeral? I know she was a sort-of war hero - symbol of Britain's defiance of Hitler and all - but aren't you Canadians largely free from Britain's tyrannical yoke yet? Or is it just that you'd rather watch their TV programs than ours? ;)

[CougTek]

The more interesting question is, why would a self respecting quebecois (sorry I don't know what all the right special characters are) watch the Queen mother's funeral?
Because he is english speaking, probably consider himself a Canadian and he has nothing to do with a Québéçois (it's ok for the accents). I don't really care what he is, I just want to be able to sleep at 6h30am in the morning, especially only three days after the time change (my body still considers that 6h30am is in fact 5h30am).

At least I have been able to take back some sleeping hours after 9am, so I'm ok now (I knew it wouldn't be a good day to sell on the stock market, so I didn't have to follow the fluctuations as closely as usual).

[Tannin]

The English watch because ... well ... just because they are the English. Not everything in this world is subject to rational explanation. Some things just are. Ocassionally very drunk people manage to stumble across this essential truth and give voice to it in song - the one that goes "We're here because we're here because we're here because we're here because we're here because we're here ... This, by the way, is an even worse thing to hear at 5:30AM - unless, of course, you are the one singing it.

The Irish watch because they are very sorry to see the old lady dead from natural causes, so they sit there polishing their Kalashnikovs and promising themselves that the younger menbers of the Royal Family will not get away.

And the rest of the world watches because ... well .. because even watching an English funeral is better than watching American sit coms.

[HellDiver]

My goodness! Tony (in his various disguises) keeps cracking me up lately! I never suspected the ol' Aussie had a sense of humor... ;)

BTW, those comments are plain cruel! I love 'em! :twistd:

(sorry, had to borrow the smilie from SR. Hey, Handruin! Any chance of adding this one to our default list? :diablo: is pretty good too, but it's just not the same...)

[Handruin]

Consider it Done!

[Tannin]

:D :) :( :o :-? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :roll: :wink: :>: :?: :idea: :excl: :mrgrn: :eekers: :>: :>: :>: ?

[HellDiver]

Handruin, you da man! :twistd: :twistd: :twistd:

(by now I only wish it was on the left side of reply editing window, among the first 20 "emoticons", but hey, I'm pushing it, ain't I? :roll: It's just that I got used to using it fairly often on SR... Definitely pushing it! :oops:

But to be perfectly honest I think the smilies are a wonderful thing to have, and I mean only the meaningful emoticons. Electronic means of communication lack the emotions too badly, things often get interpreted the wrong way because without hearing person's intonation and/or seeing his face it's all too easy to mistake an innocent joke for a grave insult, etc. Emoticons help resolving such issues because albeit they're not in the same ballpark as having visual/audio contact with another person they still convey at least some of the intended meaning of words used...

Yup, shameless rambling, as usual... :oops: )

[Handruin]

:D :) :( :o :-? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :roll: :wink: :>: :?: :idea: :excl: :mrgrn: :eekers: :>: :>: :>: ?


Ok ok, I've fixed the right arrow as well. :)

:>: has been replaced with :right:

:right:

[Handruin]

Handruin, you da man! :twistd: :twistd: :twistd:

(by now I only wish it was on the left side of reply editing window, among the first 20 "emoticons", but hey, I'm pushing it, ain't I? :roll: It's just that I got used to using it fairly often on SR... Definitely pushing it! :oops:

But to be perfectly honest I think the smilies are a wonderful thing to have, and I mean only the meaningful emoticons. Electronic means of communication lack the emotions too badly, things often get interpreted the wrong way because without hearing person's intonation and/or seeing his face it's all too easy to mistake an innocent joke for a grave insult, etc. Emoticons help resolving such issues because albeit they're not in the same ballpark as having visual/audio contact with another person they still convey at least some of the intended meaning of words used...

Yup, shameless rambling, as usual... :oops: )

It's a fair request. I believe it will take some database hacking to make it work. phpBB2 doesn't offer a way to reorganize the smilies once they've been added to the list. (which sucks)

Let me see what I can do when I get home tonight.

[Mercutio]

I guess I'm the last holdout on the emoticons front, too. I really dislike the graphical smiley-faces used here and elsewhere. Typing a ":" and a ")" is too much work?

I have no idea what some of those annoying yellow symbols are supposed to mean, but :D :P ;) and :( are all pretty easy to understand and universal to any textual communication.

I think we could do without them with no loss in the quality of communication here.

[timwhit]

I totally agree with Merc here. I hate the dumb smileys, it makes the discussion look like there are a bunch of 10 year old girls involved.

I have never used the yellow faces, and I hope I never do. I have them disabled in all my posts.

[HellDiver]

Actually, a large portion of those smilies are tied to ';'+')', ':'+'P', etc... So once you type that regular ":D" or ":P" - the "yellow face" shows up in your post (if you have those enabled, of course!). No extra work at all, Mercutio! About the only smilie I'm actually willing to actively click on is the :twistd: one - at least when it matches my own expression at the moment of typing a reply... ;) That, those two : :roll: :oops: , for the same reason.

And I don't think it has anything to do with 10 year old girls. I've seen enough on-line communities torn apart in extensive flame wars over something that started out as a simple mis-communication between two people. Usually something that was taken in a totally wrong way and responded to "in kind" (which obviously wasn't very "kind" due to the mis-communication!).

But if you don't like it, timwhit - there you go, you have them disabled. A perfect example of freedom of choice in action! ;)

[timwhit]

But if you don't like it, timwhit - there you go, you have them disabled. A perfect example of freedom of choice in action!

I just wish I could turn them off in other people's posts.

[Tannin]

Hmmm ... I certainly don't like too many of them. But like them so long as they are used sparingly. I use smilies in maybe one post in five, and only a few of them. Of the ones that are available:


Sometimes: :wink: :( :) :-?

Rarely: :D :mrgrn: :eekers:

Never: :?: :right: :idea: :excl: :P :evil: :x :lol: 8)

Only discovered the last page last night, so I've never used any of those.

[Handruin]

I'd say start a poll. If people really don't like them, I can remove them entirely.

[timwhit]

I think it is just Mercutio and me that don't like them. I guess I will survive with them. But, isn't there anyway so that I don't have to see them (an option or something)???

[Splash]

. .
I think it is just Mercutio and me that don't like them. I guess I will survive with them. But, isn't there anyway so that I don't have to see them (an option or something)???

. . . .Special no-smiley sunglasses. . . . . 8^(


. .

[HellDiver]

Theoretically speaking, there should be a hack for phpBB that would allow this (requires an addition of a param to user's settings and checking of this param in the script that renders the page for the user). But whether one exists specifically for phpBB2 - I don't know...

[Cliptin]

If it helps any, I have noticed that if I use smiley code but leave the checkmark checked then smilies will not appear. As is proper.
If someone includes my message in a reply and turns smilies on, then my inset message shows smilies too. :bow:

[Bartender]

And the rest of the world watches because ... well .. because even watching an English funeral is better than watching American sitcoms.

Isn't that the truth sometimes. When the bar gets quiet, it's nice watching the occasional show, sitcoms notwithstanding. The problem is that many of the new American sitcoms are either NOT funny, or weird, dabbling in the occult and witches. So I turn the old knob to public television, and voila, BBC TV (sorry, no Aussie programming yet – is there any good Aussie programming? Aussies always seem to be in forums or chat rooms). Granted, some of the shows are not so new, but they make you laugh just the same. Keeping Up Appearances, Waiting for God, As Time Goes By, etc., are all worth the time for me.

The Queen mum’s funeral? Sad to see her go (some are not), but certainly not worth watching or at least not worth aggravating my neighbors over. So, if you’re ever my neighbor Coug, no worries, the next funeral for a royal family member won’t interfere with my sleep or yours.

I guess it’s time for a little television now, the place seems quiet and the patrons are scarce.

[CougTek]

The Queen mum’s funeral? Sad to see her go (some are not), but certainly not worth watching or at least not worth aggravating my neighbors over. So, if you’re ever my neighbor Coug, no worries, the next funeral for a royal family member won’t interfere with my sleep or yours.

Although I don't plan to ever live in the States, it's nice to know. Thanks.

[i]

I'll add my thoughts about the death of the Queen Mother.

I actually wound up thinking about 2 different things.

It was sad. Not because I owe any royal person any allegiance, but because of what her death symbolized in my mind. She was the Queen Mother, and at one point the Queen of England. Perhaps as some faint relic of my childhood naivety, in my mind that represented one of the ultimate representations of power.

And even she couldn't avoid death.

I know it's a sudden switch of gears, but about a month earlier, during some TV network's ongoing James-Bond-athon, they had a brief interview with Roger Moore. He looked so old! I had a hard time believing it at first ... for heaven's sake it was James Bond! And if James Bond can't escape time and age ... what hope do any of us have?

So that was the first thing I thought about. I found that the Queen Mother's death was a very touching, subtle, yet very real reminder of the mortality we all face.

The second thing was that it represented yet another living connection to the past that was gone forever. Here in America, I get the same sort of feeling when I hear about a veteran, or really anyone who's lived a full life, who has died. It's a link to the past ... via a person who lived in times I will never be able to truly know ... that's gone forever. That matters to me. It makes me wonder about how things were back when they were younger. What events did they go through in their lives? What were the big ones? What were the small ones? Did they find, as I have so far, that in the end either kind - big or small - can have a lasting impression on one's life? And finally, what insight, and what character and impact to our own lives, have we all lost as they leave us behind?

It was sad.

[Cliptin]

...
sorry, no Aussie programming yet – is there any good Aussie programming? ...

Haven't you ever seen Bananas in Pajamas or Teletubbies? Oh, the Aussies have a plan. It starts with the stupification of our youth!

[GIANT]

. .
I rarely watch the ol' tele, but I thought that I heard of an Australian export that is basically some sort of daredevil-based real-life show, where they use just common folk off the street to perform daredevil stunts -- or something like that.

. .

[Pradeep]

Ahh, "Who Dare Wins". Worthwhile to watch if only to see Tania :D

[Mercutio]

Shown in the US on BBC America, if you're lucky enough to get that station.

[Tannin]

Hi Jake. I haven't seen your dogginess around for ages.

[Tea]

Damn it, Mercutio, Tannin libelled you savagely here (http://forums.storagereview.net/viewtopic.php?t=2789) and didn't hear a peep out of you. You are slipping, old son.

[Handruin]

Damn it, Mercutio, Tannin libelled you savagely here (http://forums.storagereview.net/viewtopic.php?t=2789) and didn't hear a peep out of you. You are slipping, old son.

Ah, I think you just posted a link on SR to SF. People may get confused and ask questions. :eekers:

[Tea]

What the hell.

(shrug)

I post links from SF to SR all the time and no-one notices. I have been posting links from SR to redhill for four years or so and nobody minds. I've had links from redhill to SR for nearly that long too and nobody cares. If Sean and the SR-is-God-Nazis want to get all upset about it, that's fine with me. I'll sic Tannin onto them.

No. Come to think of it, I won't bother. Time they grew up anyway, if they haven't already, which they probably have long since. A non-issue, I think. And if it isn't, then it's time it was.

[Handruin]

I was surprised more then anything. I had not seen a link in the past that crossed between forums, so I was curious as to what would happen if someone sparked the question.

There has been no word from anyone at SR for months, and I haven't seen Davin around here at all, and Eugene doesn't write back.

It's seems sometimes like SR is gone, or no one is home. Updates are every 10 days judging by their dates on the front page, but that's about it.

I'm making a stink over nothing...no one will notice us. :)

If Sean and the SR-is-God-Nazis
ha! :lol:

[Tea]

(Totally irrelevant to anything)

I see Cougtek is up, that mean's it's time for me to hit the sack.

Sometimes, especially on Fridays, I get into a frame of mind when I feel like surfing round this place or SR but don't have a great deal to say. That's when it's nice to have a busy forum. You can just sort of sit back, relax, cruise the threads, watch the conversations popping up, maybe just participate a little.

But tonight, when I don't have the energy to jump into any of the several threads I'm intending to re-warm, let alone start off new ones, all is quiet. Even Storage Review, with it's vastly bigger user base, is quiet. At one stage there were just four people logged on there, all guests. Very quiet for SR.

Oddly enough, there is an old-style SR thread running at present, the one Frank Russo started on short stroking (I'm too tired to make a link, it's on the top page though), which threatens to turn into a storage-related discussion of genuine merit.

But it won't. Too many of the old regulars are gone, and those of us that still hang around the place are all posted out on the techo stuff, said it all before, shared 90% of our insights long since.

Two years ago, the old crew would have been all over that thread like a rash. Not any more.

Mind you, there is the odd new face ("new" as in "less than one year") to bring fresh light and different points of view. Russofris is an example: a good guy.

That reminds me (or something reminds me - hard to say what in this sleepy state). Maybe it's easier for you downside-up types, but I'm forever getting mixed up about who is just up and who is about to finish work and what day it is when people post. (Mind you, I take after Tannin - I have enough trouble remembering what day it is here, let alone any other place.)

Anyway, I thought it would be nice to have a page here where it would have a real-time readout of the time of day in different places, and the temperature too. I mean (bear with me here, I'm just rambling away) it would be nice to click on Cougtek's avatar and be told "6:30AM Monday in Montreal, Fine and clear, 5 degrees C" (or something like that), click on PeeWee's and be told "12 midnight Tuesday, 20 degrees, raining".

Dumb idea? What did you expect? It's late and it's Friday and I should go to bed. But I'll click "SUBMIT" anyway, and like the gambler wanting just one more roll, flick up to "FORUM INDEX" and see if there are any new posts yet.

What the hell - last night I was so tired that I found myself watching my virus scanner ....

Bartender, could I trouble you for a nightcap? Perhaps a nice glass of port.

[i]

I think that's a great idea. (Except I have no life at all ... so that sort of thing would appeal to me.)

You could almost extend/integrate that idea with the calendar (is it still on the beta server?).

[Bartender]

No trouble Tea, one port coming right up.

[Handruin]

Let me see what I can do. Before I try anything with this I need to get Coug's review up before he shoots me. Last week and this week have been busy!

I might be able to hack something into the avatar link where it would take to you the relative country link. I would need to figure out how to make it customizable. Sounds like a fun mod, great idea!

I have also been curious as to what time people here are awake and sleeping. I didn't even realize it's 7:09 PM in Austria. It is 1:09 PM right now, and I'm just finishing up lunch at work.

http://www.worldtimeserver.com

[Handruin]

This link is more appropriate for the project:

Here is the "How to"
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/link-info.asp?locationid=AU-VIC

Here is a link to Australia
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/?locationid=AU-VIC

My mistake in the last post, I thought I clicked on Australia, not Austria. It is 3:09 AM where Tannin is, not 7:09 PM.

[Handruin]

Probably a mistake again, it's not Victoria, that's someone else here. :roll:

[Buck]

No, Tannin is in Victoria. Presently 3:18 am and I can hear him snoring all the way over here!

[CougTek]

Before I try anything with this I need to get Coug's review up before he shoots me.
No, I don't shoot people. I don't even have a gun. Trunked doubled-barrels are illegal here anyway so I wouldn't have fun to own a firearm.

I much prefer to do this manually. Much more rewarding. I usually start by broking an arm. It's quick and easy. Legs are much tougher. Of course, breaking the knee is a piece of cake, but breaking the thighbone, that's one hell of a job. Unless I really have something against the person, I don't bother, too much work. Crushing the ribs is another nice thing to try. However, you cannot crush all of them or else, the rest of the body doesn't hold very well after that. Like in everything, you have to act with moderation.

But I won't do all this just for a retarded review, especially with good excuses.
__________________________________________________
j/k ;-)

[Tea]

I thought you were a stock broker, not an arms broker.

[time]

:rofl:

[Buck]

I guess it's that dry Aussie humor.

[CougTek]

I thought you were a stock broker, not an arms broker.
One doesn't forbid the other. But I'm more the first than the later.

[Platform]

. .
I'm surprised that anyone would want to create (or re-create) a subject with this title, since the original on Storage Review was such an exquisite showcase of ignorance and xenophobia.

. .

[CougTek]

Gary seems to be in great shape today! :mrgrn:

[Bartender]

Pretty quiet at present.

Interesting Avatar Gary.

[Tea]

I'd be more active, Bartender, but I only just got bloody Tannin to let go of the keyboard. For some reason completely beyond my ken, he just spent hours doing a ridiculously long and carefully researched post by way of discussion of the airliner market with Jason over at Storage Review.

http://forums.storagereview.net/viewtopic.php?p=32717#32717

And now I better see about lunch.

[Cliptin]

On reflection, it does seem that the original OTC was the beginning of the end.

It's sad that I don't remember the good times.

[Groltz]

by way of discussion of the airliner market

Airliner discussion and I wasn't invited? Aww t'hell with ithttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?source=blq/yhoo&siteid=yhoo&dist=yhoo&guid=%7B4E51A5B3%2DA91D%2D4DE6%2D8F48%2D0BE5CE4159 4F%7D] (http://rd.yahoo.com/finance/external/cbsm/*[url).[/url]

Bartender, set me up with a pint of good Hefeweizen.

[Bartender]

Bartender, set me up with a pint of good Hefeweizen.

Coming right up. Would you like Paulaner, Kapuziner, Erdinger, Einbecker, Koestritzer, or Maisel's? Would you like a slice of lemon with that?

[Groltz]

Would you like Paulaner, Kapuziner, Erdinger, Einbecker, Koestritzer, or Maisel's? Would you like a slice of lemon with that?

Widmer Hefeweizen!!! Lemon, if you have it. No problem if not. In nothing smaller than a 21 once schooner, please.

[Bartender]

Widmer Hefeweizen!!! Lemon, if you have it. No problem if not. In nothing smaller than a 21 once schooner, please.

Widmer Hefeweizen? Ok, coming up. (Amerikanische Weizen bier ist Mist.)

[Groltz]

(Amerikanische Weizen bier ist Mist.)

<Just returning from the Babelfish web site>

And hold the Kraut, smartass, or no tip. Widmer ownz.

[Cliptin]

I have only had the Bock wheat beer. It smelled tto much like rotting fruit. Blech!

[Bartender]

(Amerikanische Weizen bier ist Mist.)

<Just returning from the Babelfish web site>

And hold the Kraut, smartass, or no tip. Widmer ownz. :D

[Tannin]

Always marry an ugly girl
The're the only kind
Coz she'll never leave you
And if she does - you won't mind

Lyrics from a tune on a both kinds of music show that I happened to hear a little of the other night.

[Buck]

I believe you're lacking sleep Tannin.

[Bartender]

I believe you are too Buck. Isnt' that what you said when you got up this morning?

[The Grammar Police]

Allo, allo, allo? What's all this then?

The high and mighty Tannin misplacing an apostrophe, eh? You know what we do to people who misplace apostrophes, don't you?


Always marry an ugly girl
The're the only kind
Coz she'll never leave you
And if she does - you won't mind


Go straight to your room, young Tannin, and don't come out until I say so.

[Cliptin]

Actually he left out a "y." :P

Keep taking those ESL classes.

[Pradeep]

He's speaking strine. Shaddupa yur gob or he'l shud it for ya mayyyyte.

[Bartender]

The infamous www.redhill.net.au website has not been updated since the 1st of May! I believe that is a record for this year. By the way Tea, Tannin, Tony, etal, the site does look good, your web design team has done a great job.

[Groltz]

The Volcanic Activity Update Page (http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/current_volcs/current.html) is finally being updated again after a 7 month hiatus. For a while I didn't think they were coming back. Always a good place to find out whose village is being incinerated.

[Prof.Wizard]

I guess I'm the last holdout on the emoticons front, too. I really dislike the graphical smiley-faces used here and elsewhere. Typing a ":" and a ")" is too much work?

I have no idea what some of those annoying yellow symbols are supposed to mean, but :D :P ;) and :( are all pretty easy to understand and universal to any textual communication.

I think we could do without them with no loss in the quality of communication here.
Classic Mercutio... :lol:

[Mercutio]

What, am I posting so little now that you think there need to be re-runs?

[Tannin]

(Sung to the tune of "The Beverly Hillbillies".)



THE BEVERLY HILLS BOBBITS

Come listen to a story 'bout a man named John,
A poor ex-marine with his little wanker gone.
It seems one night after gettin' with the wife,
She lopped off his dong with the swipe of a knife.

Penis, that is.
Clean cut.
Missed his nuts.

Well, the next thing you know there's a Ginsu by his side,
And Lorena's in the car takin' Willie for a ride.
She soon got tired of her purple-headed friend,
Tossed him out the window as she went around a bend.

Curve, that is.
Tossed the nub.
In the shrub.

She went to the cops and confessed to the attack,
They called out the hounds just to get his weenie back.
They sniffed and they barked and they pointed "over there"
To John Wayne's henry that was waving in the air.

Found, that is.
By a fence.
Evidence.

Now peter and John couldn't stay apart for long,
So a dick doc said, "Hey, I can fix that dong!"
"A needle and a thread is all we're gonna need"
And the whole world waited till they heard that Johnny pee'd.

Whizzed, that is.
Straight stream.
Even seam.

Well he healed and he hardened and he took his case to court,
With a half-assed lawyer cause his assets came up short.
They cleared her of assault and acquitted him of rape
And his pecker was the only thing they didn't show on tape.

Video, that is.
Unexposed.
Case Closed.

Ya'll sleep on your stomachs now, ya hear?????

[flagreen]

ROTFLMAO!

And I thought I didn't like country music...

[Koggit]

*claps* brav

did you write that?

[Tannin]

Good Lord, no, Koggit. I just found it on a web site that I have no intention of mentioning on this family-oriented forum. Or anyplace else, for that matter.

I did actually ponder if I ought to post it here. It seems to be stretching the limits a little. But then I thought - oh, what the hell. We have moderators. If they feel it's going too far then they can delete it and I won't object. I guess under most circumstances I wouldn't post such a thing. But it made me laugh so hard that I gave in to temptation.

(Sorry Flagreen, it wasn't fair of me to duck responsibility like that. I think it was actually being able to hear the tune in my head as I read it that pushed me beyond the bounds of sensibility and into that other place known as hilarity.)

[Mercutio]

I don't see a problem with anything there.
What "family" is here besides Flagreen and Koggit? Koggit probably hears worse every day when he turns on his CD player anyway, or if not him, the people he goes to school with.


By the way, when's Kristi going to show up?!? SF needs the tempering influence of a (human) female. Then Tannin wouldn't be giving in to all his temptations and I wouldn't have to take up my sworn duty to protect SF from foul-mouthed Aussies. :)

[Tea]

Well, she did want to ask you guys more questions about buying a VCR. Tannin was about to write in her questions for her in the VCR thread when he said that she ought to ask them herself. She agreed, but said "not right now".

I think she is weakening. :)

PS: I discovered her at lunchtime today, sitting at Tannin's 21 inch monitor and reading a Storage Forum thread of her own choice. So far, so good, I thought. But why on earth did she choose "The Giver Revealled" thread? I guess that there is no accounting for tastes.

[Groltz]

So did Mercutio and CougTek pony up the money to buy a hitman to grease PW? Awful quiet here without his over abundant hyper-optimism.

[CougTek]

So did Mercutio and CougTek pony up the money to buy a hitman to grease PW? Awful quiet here without his over abundant hyper-optimism.
Why pay someone else to do something I would enjoy so much doing by myself? Besides, when you want something to be done right, you have to do it yourself. Everyone knows that. :P

Seriously, you are right Steve. It's not the same forum without our PW screaming "kick me" all over the place. My sub-conscious must miss him.

[Jake the Dog]

why was this thread bumped up?

[Jake the Dog]

oops, i got all confused sorry. ignore my last post i was looking at coug's join date. doh!

[Explorer]

why was this thread bumped up?

Don't know.

OT: Apology to China = B·O·R·I·N·G

[Tea]

By the way, I'd just like to announce that Tannin and I have come to a new arrangement. From now on, so as to avoid those messy disagreements that you guys may have noticed, and also because we have run out of entire plates to throw that haven't been glued back together three times already and saucepans hurt, Tannin and I have decided that he will make all the major decisions and I won't argue, and I will make all the minor decisions and he won't argue.

We have been trialing this new arrangement for several weeks now and it works perfectly. We have not had one single argument!

[Tannin]

Tea is right. Not one single argument! Amazing how well this system works, actually. And isn't it a funny coincidence that, ever since we switched to it, we don't seem to have made any major decisions either!

[The JoJo]

LOL!

[Bartender]

Tea is right. Not one single argument! Amazing how well this system works, actually. And isn't it a funny coincidence that, ever since we switched to it, we don't seem to have made any major decisions either!

Nor as many posts.

[Mercutio]

I'm horribly depressed. Tannin's busy. Cougtek has connectivity issues. Flagreen seems to have disappeared for some reason. timwhit's about to go back to school. Cliptin is working again.

A number of folks who normally contribute a great deal to the post count here seem to be bothered by that thing called "real life" right now.

[Bartender]

Yes, it's amazing how time consuming real life can be.

[timwhit]

I'm horribly depressed. Tannin's busy. Cougtek has connectivity issues. Flagreen seems to have disappeared for some reason. timwhit's about to go back to school. Cliptin is working again.

A number of folks who normally contribute a great deal to the post count here seem to be bothered by that thing called "real life" right now.

Actually it seems that after I go back to school I have more time to spend on the internet, because my friends have to do homework during the week for some reason. But, I just sit in front of the computer for hours on end. Plus, I have been working 40 hours a week this summer which sucks. I hate work, I think I might become a ski bum after graduation. Or get a job that doesn't involve sitting behind a desk in a dark office all day.

[timwhit]

Being an electrician sounds good to me. Union wage is $36/hour, doesn't sound too bad to me. Plus Chicago is the biggest union city in the country, it's hard to hire someone who isn't part of a union.

[Mercutio]

Should've started awhile ago for that one. Although I've heard that electricians with the training to do fiber-optic installations make unbelievable amounts of money.

Plumbing is an even better racket.

[i]

Again. (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/21/bush.china/index.html)

[Mercutio]

I would like to know when he's going to apoloized for being born and everything else he's done wrong.

[P5-133XL]

I would like to know when he's going to apoloized for being born and everything else he's done wrong.

Are you talking about Bush or Hu Jintao?

Way to go in resurrecting an old thread.

[Mercutio]

If I said both I would still not be wrong. :)